Mammograms, from the high quality imaging research Ball point pens you can use in space, cost a lot to develop.. Russians just use pencils I don't think the Higgs particle smashing has any real world applications though does it? We already know how to smash things together quite well as it is
Theoretical science is such now that if you are a scientist and you manage to get 10 billion to develop a machine and do experiments, other scientists in peer review can only look at your data, they cannot actually confirm the results or prove you actually did it or you made it all up
The last generation of supercolliders contributed to the discovery and development of higher quality X-Rays, MRI scanning, Maglev trains and drug development as well as lots of other more mundane stuff (more absorbent nappies is my personal favourite). And the LHC has already provided benefits to radiotherapy - Asha King, the kid whose parents tried to abduct him to get proton beam therapy treatment, may well have had his life saved as a result along with many others in the future. To a large extent it is just geeks smashing **** together to see what happens, and if things behave as they expected them to. But when you put that many intelligent people together and give them the tools to try things out, you will always get practical benefits too. Not to mention that better theoretical understanding helps in real life as well. Everyone posting on this forum is doing so using an electronic device which is a direct result of theoretical research into quantum mechanics, using an internet which is a direct result of academics wanting to share their data more effectively. It's a lot of money to spend, but rarely is it wasted.
Science is entirely consensus. Nothing can ever be truly proved, it can only either be disproved or can obtain increasing amounts of consensus. Newton's law of gravity was never proved, it was only consensus until Einstein disproved it. That never stopped things from falling down tho'
Oh, and the LHC was shut down in February 2013, to be reopened in 2015. Liverpool have done really **** whilst that was happening, haven't they
Rarely wasted? nah, untrue, they just spent 5 years looking at the centre of the milky way to prove Dark matter exists by looking at a galazy with no "alleged pulsars"(pulsar theory is utterly ridiculous) so as to explain the gamma ray bursts coming from the area as they suspect there should be a high denisty of dark matter which is stupid, as Dark matter is imaginary. The Planck and COBE sats are a complete waste of money for example
That's the basis of RHC's advanced paper into "The Causality Between the Large Hadron Collider and the Comparative Success Rate of Liverpool Football Club". It's why we're going to win the PL this season.
And my counter theory, which is that LFC only achieve anything when the LHC is inactive. LHC turned on in last 2008, immediately fails and is turned off for one year. LFC finish 2nd. LHC turned back on in late 2009, runs till December 2010. LFC are ****. LHC turned off in December 2010. LFC briefly look good again for about four months. LHC turned back on in March 2011. LFC get progressively ****ter over time LHC turned off in February 2013. LFC finish 2nd in the next season. Under my theory, your current poor form is entirely in anticipation of the LHC being turned back on in February, at which point you will get relegated
Brian Cox was on HardTalk the other morning. He was pointing out that though the Apollo programme cost @ 5% of US GDP it gave back 15 fold that amount over the next 20 years in technological advances and trained engineers in all sorts of disciplines. A worldwide programme to send humans to Mars, the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.... Yes, it would cost trillions, but we're spending that much nowadays on welfare and putting it on the credit card for future generations, just to keep down unit labour costs (i.e. you will do this ****ty zero hours contract job on minimum wage as there's millions of unemployed at the gates who'd do it instead). I can just imagine what would have happened had Logie Baird, Watson-watt, Fleming and others not carried out experiments. Even in the days of Davy and Faraday there were tits saying they were wasting time. btw Sis, most of Newton's work was not verified, as such, in his lifetime. It took other pioneers to track the transit of Venus and so forth, just as the space programme has verified lots of Einstein's work. Particle physics and quantum mechanics is indeed 'voodoo' science, but it's probably the most tested branch of science there's ever been. It works, but we have no idea why - or at least no proof. If we ever find gravitons and, more importantly, how and why they work - the legacy for our children and future generations. Certainly beats spending trillions on arms. Some of you on here would have lined up with the Pope against gallileo. Shame on you - put down your pitchforks discover your universe.
They've used Newton's Laws to send astronauts to the moon and satellites to the edges of the solar system. Newton had no idea of how gravity distorted space and time, and indeed he never professed any interest in explaining why gravity works. We really don't know why to this day - gravity is the one of the four forces we just can't get to grips with (all the more reason to experiment and calculate, to paraphrase Feynman). In short, it's fairer to say Einstein refined Newton, not 'disproved' him. When it was discovered early in the last century that light travelled in waves as opposed to the particles that newton had proposed, some were too quick to dump on his utterly groundbreaking work that was even more important than his work on gravity, or even, arguably, his development of calculus (though Liebnitz mat disagree). It was the mid 17th century ffs - 250 years before Einstein. Yet with the discovery of the photon we now know that light has the duality of wave and particle function. Utterly amazing and awe-inspiring. All science is just a temporary state of accepted and tested consensus - until someone refines it. We now know more, for instance, about electricity than faraday ever did - but to say he was 'disproved' over electricity because it took Clerk-Maxwell to define it is akin to sticking your finger in the plug socket because he was 'wrong'.
We will be crap until the numbers 7 and 9 are filled out properly. That is all. My premonition is absolute.
hydrogen and/or cold fusion. Both need billions of particle research, however. Or mining minerals on other planets and moons. Needs science and exploration, in other words - providing people who don't want to spend taxpayers' money on nuclear submarines we'll never use and tarmacking over the whole country to drive 4x4's to Tesco's without ever being in a traffic jam, get their way.
Exceptionally well said for a stinking manc **** pig Are you getting to the Cheese tomorrow? The girls will be there in the afternoon
