China is not on the up, certain elements of their society are on the up and the same can be said for the US. the rest are just filler to do the work. Meanwhile both the US along with Russia mop up the resources of the planet in Africa and any number of small obscure nations with said resources. At one time no one believed the CIA were the biggest importers of heroine and cocaine into the US, yet it remains true. before the whistle blowers, the NSA Prism program would also be a conspiracy theory and we don't even know the full story with that, not even a 10th of it. **** it, I just share info and give opinion. If people want to believe it was a bunch of guys in caves and that those buildings just fell down, so be it.
Millions of Americans still believe in the the protocols of the Elders of Zion, John Lennon was killed by the CIA, The British assisted the Pearl Harbour attack to drag the US into the war, the Jews deliberately started WWI to sell arms and that the Oaklahoma bombings were done by Clinton to discredit the American far-right. And they ALL can point to inconsistencies to 'prove' their cases. The weight of numbers argument doesn't do it for me feller, especially not when you 'elevate' their credibility because they use the internet....
There is not enough people like him with the balls to challenge this whole nest of ****ing evil, Ron paul also is another one who has the balls to have a go but it took years for these people to be able to even challenge the bullshit
Everyone has an opinion Sisu, but as I said in another thread, you go back to the times of Christ ( again, if you believe or don't believe that!) and you had knights templar.... good bad? Crusade.... good or bad? Free Masons.... just a fraternity or more? etc. It has always been around these types of questions. Lincoln assasinated by the masons? JFK work of the goverment? MLK also the gov? There is always different sides of the coin. As I said, I just want ( and do my bidding) to get the communities back up and running and get the people in better places and better jobs and do what I can for the people and to get them to work. I coach full time as well to instill the next gen with more than just xbox and everything given to them in life but to provide dreams and ideas for them to become older and make a difference, in all aspects of life.
When you simplify it, what are the odds of three massive buildings falling in on themselves like they did without spilling out onto other buildings that weren't part of the WTC WTC 7 literally fell into it's own footprint. Engineers scoff at the idea of that, experts not tinfoil hat wearing loonies. WTC 7 free fell, its proven, it did not pancake it free fell, the footage is proof, not theory
I see your politicians, engineers, architects and 'host of intelligent people' and call it with the fact the VAST majority of architects, engineers and 'intelligent' people think that this 911 theory, along with the moon-landings, shape-shifting lizards, the protocols of Zion and every other crankfest listed so far, are utter sponk.
Now you're being deliberately disingenuous Sis. the vast majority of engineers and architects DO NOT scoff at this idea at all, as we've spoken about several times re the 'earthquake' effect of multi-story buildings falling down and creating a similar effect within a proportional radius. don't take my word for it - the effects have been known since the second world war and Bomber Command. http://www.debunking911.com/civil.htm
One thing that is undeniable is that America is the home of conspiracy. So I'll let you into a secret - I don't trust either side. As for Pearl Harbour there is some evidence that the British had broken the Japanese naval code but had not told the US Intelligence Services or past on that information that their fleet had sailed. After that we are back into speculation
Attempting to accrete credibility to an argument by claiming "millions of people" believe it is pointless. For every person who sees a conspiracy, there is another who doesn't. Millions of people all over the world believe in all sorts of things but that doesn't make them true. Analysis of evidence is the only way of determining the truth, and unless one does it oneself, you can still claim that you've been lied to. Really, if you want to see conspiracies everywhere, then you will see them, and no-one will change your mind. Of course you can always turn that argument around and say you won't see them if you don't want to. Which is why I say evidence is needed, and not just suspicion. None of the "evidence" I've seen amounts to anything more than fuzzy photos and fuzzier logic in my opinion. Even given the willingness of the authorities to carry out such an atrocity, the difficulties of carrying it out and getting away with it without anyone really knowing the truth are enormous. The US military have repeatedly shown how inept they are at precision operations, why suddenly give them credit for this one?
It's fascinating how people's opinions vary. I find myself at odds on this with people who I often agree with on other matters. No surprise that the truth will probably never be known, and despite any evidence shown, we'll all probably stay in our respective trenches.
People's opinions will always differ, the thing is - as all Liverpool fans our collective opinion about football related matters is usually reasonably similar. We start wondering outside the realms of football (on a football forum) and people opinions/views are going to be so varied. Because the one thing we all have in common is what team we support. And in the grand scheme of things that's a pretty small thing to have in common - so peoples opinions on these OT threads are always going vary, and so they should P.S. Which one of our spineless mods added +9/11 to the title of this thread Make your own thread you pussies
Surely there are better things to spend money on than George Galloway. Like give the money to cancer research?
Yeah very true, if you look back a few pages or ask RHC then you'll see some one my other ventures. Plus I couldn't care if it was joe Bloggs making the film, as long as it get's funded by the public and gets made, and Blair is truly exposed - then you never know what could happen. It could be a complete failure, or it could make history. I'm personally prepared to take that gamble
I know little about this film so won't comment specifically. However, as a general observation I think it's disingenuous to say it doesn't matter who makes it. The author of any polemic can easily include or exclude evidence according to whether or not it suits their case and produce a very biased argument. You have to take serious account of the political and personal motivations of the film-maker when judging its content. Which is why I said earlier that, although I think it unlikely, I'd rather see these things investigated under due process of international law rather than someone who has an axe to grind. However, you do what you think is right and we'll see how it turns out. This is my last word on it for now as I'm away soon until Monday. Have a good one.
