I think it's all circumstantial. My old man took his own life, my mum says he was ill because he was an addict, he was addicted to alcohol, gambling and eventually heroin. The addictions didn't kill him directly, he committed suicide, so I could never forgive him, even 27 years later. My brother sacrificed his education to raise me whilst my mum went out and earned money to bring up 3 boys. I blame my dad for all of the mess my family were in for years, could never forgive him. Total coward. Then there's people who are victims to abuse, who just want it all to stop, the victims of bullying or harassment or worse, domestic violence and so on. I sympathise with these people, who are shown no affection they spend their life wondering what it's all about and how long it will be before the pain stops, some have no family or friends. Then there's the mentally unstable, which includes/included me. Diagnosed with Anxiety disorder, didn't find meds for 3 years due to stubbornness. I completely understand that people cannot live with these demons in their heads, it's not something that you control, it feels as if you're being controlled by something evil inside. It spoils the lives of others around you WHILST you're alive as well which shouldn't be overlooked. I wanted to end it on many occasions but I made a promise to my brother when I was a kid that I'd look after him. He's got 3 years of service to do for our country then he's coming to work alongside me. That's all I understand on the subject, we can't put people in boxes.
Totally sympathise with the eternal sufferings of those left behind after a suicide, I think we all do. Used to know a woman once, worked as a councellor dealing with such things. Very together, astute and reputed to be excellent at her job. Then, in her mid-40s and right out of the blue, her brother took his own life. No warning signs, no note, no clues to cause then or now, nothing. Left her right up the creek without the proverbial. Rarely heard from her since... What I'm saying is whilst it's easy to write suicide off as cowardice, there are all too often control issues at play that render such charge both insensitive and meaningless. It's like blaming the pilots for mechanical failure following an air crash. Having said that, many of us have repressed anger issues around desertion after any death of a loved one. It's only natural.
That is astute Brix, hadn't thought than one through completely....you are right....it explains many, many things, not just associated with this thread but with wider aspects of life
I'll second what Terry said above. When you are suffering, things never seem to be going your way. You have loved ones, but in your head it feels as if they don't love you. Luckily, my two sisters were too young to remember what went on. They have been affected by some of the goings on, and both are now training for their professions. One a police woman, the other a social worker. I'm so very proud of them, and am chuffed that only one of us were affected badly. If I had to do it for them again, I would. But, I'd talk to someone and not hold it in.
Brix, there is nothing behind my thinking mate. I was just brought up to believe that way (rightly or wrongly) and it was all prior to the incident i posted about. For the record, i have/had 4 good friend who have do this in the past & each one of them has left devastated parents etc. they all had thier own and very unique set of circumstances, although as far as i know, none were as bad as Chico's I never said i was right about any of the OP, I simply asked the question & as a result of the replies I am much more knowledgable and aware of the whats & whys regarding the subject. the replies (by most) have been very well put and informative; and like i said. If this helps but 1 person to live 1 day longer, then I am glad i did it. thanks again for letting this run & thanks to all those who replied. Yes even the ones calling me an idiot, because for them it must be a subject close to their hearts, and I hope it may have helped them in some small way. Just goes to show why our board is one of, if not THE best on Not606. Thanks all involved
