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OT: Muslim staff at M&S can now refuse to sell pork & alcohol

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by DAPARKERSAFC, Dec 22, 2013.

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  1. Billy Death

    Billy Death Well-Known Member

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    <doh>.
     
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  2. afcftw

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    I'm not going to get into an argument about what is or isn't ignorance. You've obviously made your mind up about UKIP but to me you seem to have bought right into the fobbing off done by the other major parties and certain media outlets (cough guardian cough).

    You'll also find at the heart of UKIP's green policy is the aim to reduce the economic strain generated by over the top green policing by government and the EU. They want to reduce energy bills through cutting green requirements and the way we approach them. At a time of economic instability i can see the obvious logic behind there policies.

    The bit you are refering to you'll find they stop short of saying global warming isn't real but instead focus attention to natural temperature cycles whereby the earth cools and heats in waves. It's not worth arguing about, it's the result of this trail of thought that is important rather than which science is correct.

    Personally i don't see the point in how stringent we are with Environmental Management when countries like China completely blow us out of the water making us not much more than an insignificance.
     
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  3. afcftw

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    What a load of rubbish haha
     
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  4. Cyclops

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    Glad you has said so as I didn't want to bring this up myself. Looks to me like this is pretty advanced in it's progress, the EU being the initial blueprint for other area's of the world to follow suit. This goes back a long, long way though. Albert Pike, 33rd degree freemason of the Scottish rite, wrote this in his doctrines & gave info as to how the first & second world wars would come to be back in the 1800's. Thing is we're getting a bit deep now, and most people won't have a foggiest idea of what all this means. The top & bottom of it is that whether we agree with each other or not we are all in the same boat & if & when the 5hit hits the fan we will have to deal with it together regardless of our previous convictions.
     
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  5. Smug in Boots

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    They've been fanatical and murdering people for centuries ........... it's only because of improve communications and transport that they're branching out.
     
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  6. Cyclops

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    Islam, it's called the religion of peace, which comes from Arabic. It doesn't actually mean peace though, it means submission. I'm pretty sure that Mohammed was a Catholic initially, bear in mid that there was no such religion as Islam prior to his founding of it.
     
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  7. MrRAWhite

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    Mohammed a Catholic? <laugh>
     
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  8. Cyclops

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    He founded Islam, when he was born there was no such thing as Islam. Must have been something or other prior to that.
     
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    He founded Islam as we know it. They already worshipped Allah. That's like saying Henry VIII was Jewish until he started Christianity.
     
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  10. 1iking

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    So your saying we or the Americans have never bombed schools or residential areas but then again I suppose they're only colatrial damage. Not a load of rubbish its a fact just doesn't make headlines.
     
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  11. 1iking

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    Are you forgetting the crusades then, I think you'll find we started it
     
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  12. Cyclops

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    That's true mate, but not as the creator of everything as in the one God but a god of the moon derived from pagan beliefs. Islam brought him to be as the one true god. Anyway, people can believe what they like, the more you research into stuff the more you realize how little you actually know.
     
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    I know **** all about it mate and would never claim to know much at all!

    I just know that Islam is a mesh of pagan beliefs from different arabic tribes. Much like most religions it's taken a great deal from other religions before them.
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

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    Of course not but that doesn't follow any logic ...... Muslims have started plenty of wars and invaded other countries.

    Surely you can't blame it all on retaliation.
     
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  15. 1iking

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    And we've never started anything I suppose
     
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    You said if we stopped the drone strikes they would stop attacking us... that is a load of rubbish.
     
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  17. afcftw

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    Your a ****ing idiot mate. You obviously think Muslims are a lovely peaceful people who have never wanted any kind of conflict but have been forced into it by the big bad west. Your a tool.
     
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  18. Smug in Boots

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    Why do you keep doing that?

    I haven't said we're only good and they're only bad but you seem to want everything to be extreme .......... are you an extremist?
     
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  19. Smug in Boots

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    The British only started kicking off because of those Vikings & Normans ........... it's all their fault.
     
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  20. MrRAWhite

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    Which is precisely why we need some kind of global governance in matters such as the use of fossil fuels and deforestation, as countries such as China are now burning fossil fuels in order to gain a comparative advantage. This is still not an excuse for us to follow suit though, as this will just hasten the pace of the devastation that is coming soon if we keep on the path we are at present..
     
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