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Is animal testing on medicine right?

  1. Yes I believe it is.

  2. No I do not believe it is.

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  1. Beef

    Beef Well-Known Member

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    All animal testing will gradually be fazed out soon anyways. Think it was the uni of southampton, they have developed a computer that can replicate any dna be it animal or man. You then inject the drug into the computer and it tells you how that dna would react.
     
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  2. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Ah, if only science was that simple. As a research scientist in a previous life (1970-1984) we were always looking to faze out animal testing where possible for ethical and financial reasons. Remember a lot of testing is forced on drug companies by regulations. I suspect that early non-animal testing may provide valuable information that can help decide whether to progress to full drug testing. This will reduce the amount of animal testing required. I am aware that I am out of date now and perhaps DNA testing will prevent false positives and negatives because of species differences.
     
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  3. Beef

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    It's not that early tho fran, the company I work for have been testing it for over a year. (I'm not involved in drug testing part I am just notified).

    This computer is mad it can basically replicate any animals dna you need be it healthy or not to do testing on and work out what the affects of the drugs are.

    I think it will be about 4yrs before this machine is in service tho tbh.
     
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  4. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I am way out of date...it's just that I know in general things have a way of not turning out how you expect. If I had my time again I would still choose science...it is the reason I am interested in virtually everything.
     
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  5. Beef

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    Agreed it still may not work out, but at least we are a year on in tests.
     
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  6. Joe!

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    We're not far off being able to produce meat without actually killing animals.
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    It is an interesting philosophical point. The imperative of life is to pass on your DNA. Cows, sheep and pigs are common in Britain because they provide meat and other products without threatening man, therefore being tasty and useful has proved to be good for their survival as a species. No one would want large herbivores wandering around eating our food sources if we became vegetarian. They'd only exist in parks and zoos and their gene pool would become small, perhaps too small for long-term survival.
     
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  8. Joe!

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    We could still use them for leather, wool, milk, etc.
     
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    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, McDonalds, can barely call that crap ,meat!
    <laugh>
    On a serious note, would you want to eat that lab meat? I'd rather be vegan............in fact I'd rather be Vulcan!
     
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  10. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    I'd like to be a Vulcan.
     
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  11. Joe!

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    It'd be exactly the same.
     
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  12. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    Hmm yum.
    I draw the line at Dolly.
     
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  13. It’s Only A Game

    It’s Only A Game Well-Known Member

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    I too had the same experience which resulted in the death of the rabbit. Mind you I had to chase it over a couple of fields before I got the ****er.

    It's a well known fact that foxes, pheasants and the horses in the Grand National are all on this earth for our benefit and some of them actually enjoy the experience.
    As for using animals for cosmetic testing, I've never seen a rabbit that didn't look better with a little mascara on.

    With mascara

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  14. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    How do you know the animals being harmed are "innocent"?

    Just because they're small, furry, and cute, doesn't mean that they might not have done some sort of little animal crimes.
     
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  15. The Based God

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    Yes it is right, until a suitable alternative is found.
     
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  16. West Kent Saint

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    Seagulls steal chips, for example.

    Although, they are not cute.
     
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  17. Schneiderlin's Foxy Face

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    We did animal testing in rs and scientists have developed a way to use human cells in a petri dish to test drugs on, so one one dies.
     
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  18. SFC4BAG

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    Parton?
     
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  19. Itchen North Matt

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    I really couldn't give a flying **** about the poor sod of a lab rat that gets loaded up with a drug to see how much will kill it. Call me heartless, but the treatment of a few animals for me comes second to the betterment of mankind.
     
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