OT Hungarian GP
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Yeah it was great
A bit like Jenson Buttons charge at the Canadian Grand Prix the other year
Only you would have a train of thought like that
Sorry john. Carry on
Id gone right off F1 a few years ago, was boring as hell imo. Caught today's race by accident and... frigging hell, now THAT was a race. Brilliant. Good on Hamilton for not rolling over for his team mate too. If you're good enough you'll get past sukka.
Hamilton and Button are just a pair of whinging bastards , as soon as someone does something untoward they're on the blower . And as for Hamilton getting all the bad luck, who the ****'s the joker who says that . How much bad luck did he get to win Silverstone, how much bad luck did het get to come third today? .
Seems Bernies plan is to make LH star tat the back to make for exciting racing .
This season has been really good and in the last 3 races have been my favourite in a good while .
Hungary today probably the pick of the three
This season has been really good and in the last 3 races have been my favourite in a good while .
Hungary today probably the pick of the three
he is head and shoulders the best racer in that field along with Alonso and Ricardo .
Hamilton makes a lot of errors , some pivotal but he tries to get 120% out of the car everywhere and everytime .
He has **** al over Rosberg in practice and qually all season and in a 1v1 nails him everytime , Rosberg has been very fortunate this season
Agree Whittlingstick bout the last 3 races , up to then it was just Hamilton v Rosberg, not good to watch same two run away every race. Agree with Hamilton and Ricciardo , but put Alonso in a decent car and he would be unbeatable . Cant agree with Rosberg being fortunate , guess would be 50/50 with Hamilton, mostly his errors are his own doing, yesterday apart .
Today and last week proves beyond doubt who the better driver is as there is no way Rosberg would have been able to pull off what Hamilton has.
Also the whining bastard today was Rosberg 'Why won't he let me past him?' Erm because you are around a second away from him you tit.
Hamilton made me laugh and was well within his rights to say 'I'm not slowing down for Nico, If he wants to pass me HE can catch me up and pass me!'.
Rosberg's "whining" was because the team had been on the radio saying Hamilton was going to let him past and then it didn't happen. I'd say it's reasonable to get back on the radio asking what's happening when you've been told one thing and something else is happening.
As for the request from Mercedes to Hamilton. Rosberg had an extra stop to make so it's reasonable enough to ask Hamilton to let him through, I doubt they expected Rosberg to be that much quicker after his stop (if they thought new tyres would be that much quicker they'd have pitted Hamilton again as well, he definitely had the tyres after qually) so it made sense to keep him away from any threat from behind. They should though have said that if Hamilton let him past there to benefit the team, that later in the race if he caught back up Rosberg would be told to stay behind as he'd been aided into the position.
Oh and I don't think Hamilton making it right through the field was that great, it's the sheer dominance of the car (not Hamilton or Mercedes fault). It's a regular occurence this season, if a Merc ****s up in qually or has technical problems, providing they make the finish they're on or at least still challenging for at least a podium. Just look at Canada, I know Hamilton retired with the same issue, but Rosberg went about 1/3 of the race with his brakes and engine both ****ed and still held 2nd place so it's not just LH that has overcome car problems to get results. Rosberg's record this season is finishing every race in the top 2, bar 1 non-finis,h and yesterday where he was challenging for 3rd. Hamilton has 2 non-finishes but has been on the podium every other race. The racing in the rest of the field has been a lot better than normal, but the Mercs coming through is just a formality.
I'm sorry but you are not being fair there.
Hamilton complains and he is a whiner yet when Rosberg does it he isn't.
You only had to look at Rosbergs face post race to see how pissed off he was. He clearly thought his team mate should have slammed the brakes on mid lap just to let him get close enough to pass him. The fact it would have totally screwed over Hamilton himself wasn't the issue obviously it was more that Nico didn't get his own way AGAIN.
Like I said it's not up to Lewis to SLOW DOWN so Nico can get in position to pass it's up to Nico to CATCH UP Lewis for it to happen.
You say it's the car and not the driver but Hamilton being only 11 behind at the mid point with a 4-1 reliability against him (2 retirements and 2 last place starts compared to only 1 retirement for Rosberg) proves that it isn't just the car.
I wonder if Rosberg knows this and doesn't like the fact that even after the luck he is only just over 1 win in front.
Hamilton complains and he is a whiner yet when Rosberg does it he isn't.
You only had to look at Rosbergs face post race to see how pissed off he was. He clearly thought his team mate should have slammed the brakes on mid lap just to let him get close enough to pass him. The fact it would have totally screwed over Hamilton himself wasn't the issue obviously it was more that Nico didn't get his own way AGAIN.
Like I said it's not up to Lewis to SLOW DOWN so Nico can get in position to pass it's up to Nico to CATCH UP Lewis for it to happen.
You say it's the car and not the driver but Hamilton being only 11 behind at the mid point with a 4-1 reliability against him (2 retirements and 2 last place starts compared to only 1 retirement for Rosberg) proves that it isn't just the car.
I wonder if Rosberg knows this and doesn't like the fact that even after the luck he is only just over 1 win in front.
Yesterday apart?
So his Brakes failing in Germany was his fault?, His engine failure in Australia was his fault?, His brakes failing in Canada where his fault? (Let us remember the reason that Rosberg survived that was actually because Hamilton had set his car up better due to his brake bias being further to the rear which was why Rosberg asked more than once how was Hamiltons car was set up as he was getting so much more out of his car and was all over Rosberg like a rash before the joint EGUK failure).
Don't agree with that at all. Whenever a British driver cant progress cos someobody else ignored team orders there's outcries of selfishness and putting themself before the team.
How am I not being fair there?
If your boss told you one of your workmates was going to do something for you to make your work easier and the workmate didn't do it wouldn't you ask them what was going on? You'd also be pissed off with your workmate if you were then told that even though the bosses had asked him to do something he'd refused. Rosberg's position yesterday is completely understandable.
I also said that Mercedes should have told Hamilton that if he let him through before his pitstop then Rosberg wouldn't be allowed to challenge him for the position after it. The reason Hamilton didn't let him through is because he was worried about Rosberg beating him later in the race. The order coming with that covered off would have solved the problem for both Mercedes wanting to get Rosberg further ahead of the rest of the field and Hamilton being worried about it costing him a place.
I can understand both drivers' points of view on it, and I agree with both of them. The team is the one that's in the wrong for giving Lewis the order in the way they did and for telling Rosberg it was happening when Lewis hadn't agreed to it.
As far as the points gap despite different reliability proving it isn't just the car goes that's rubbish, if anything it proves the point. The Mercedes is so much better than the rest of the field that even when it's heavily handicapped on race day, like Rosberg in Canada, or Hamilton in Germany and Hungary it's still comfortably able to get on the podium. You've got a car that's that much better than the rest of the field, then you throw in the DRS, whenever they come up behind the other cars it's a formality that they're going to get past within a few laps. Once you've taken out the back 14 or 15 cars as irrelevent it's quite hard for either of them to build a significant gap regardless of where they've started the race. Before even watching the race yesterday I said Hamilton would get into at least the top 5 from the pitlane despite it being Hungary, and the commentators were even talking about him winning the race from really early on as they knew it was doable. (the bit about nobody doing it from the pitlane, but someone having done it from 22nd which was effectively the same about 30 years ago)
Completely agree. Hamilton has whinged ****loads about team orders not been followed.
I also wisd he'd just come out and be true to himself and the world. He'd get a lot more respect rather than have fake relationships with American popstars trying to secure a UK media career.
All drivers moan , these are racers who have total belief in themselves and any reason for failure isnt down to them , its how they can sit in a tin can at 200mph and we cant , they have an unshifing belief in themselves .
Masa is probably an example of a racer who cant give it full pops any more and his pace and determination shows this .
As for LH moving over , i agree he should accept team orders BUT Rosberg wasn't anywhere near Hamilton and theres no way he should slow down on the straights .
Masa is probably an example of a racer who cant give it full pops any more and his pace and determination shows this .
As for LH moving over , i agree he should accept team orders BUT Rosberg wasn't anywhere near Hamilton and theres no way he should slow down on the straights .