OT- Harry admits to killing Taliban

Its invinsible up to the point of human error. There has only been one shot down to my kowledge because the pilot got to cocky and close to the zone, all other downed apaches have been a result of weather or mistakes during landing. He is, for the most part, in an impenetrable position but it allows him to give the image of leading from the front without actually having to.

 

Right, so your point is that he is an Apache pilot. Do we regard all of them as risk averse time servers who really do not deserve to be called soldiers ?

 

he isn't a pilot, he cant fly the thing. He navigates and shoots

It just looks to me that he had to make a choice of some career in the army. Preferably one that is cool, allows me to kill things but doesnt put me in danger. The existing Apache pilots mostly got there through hard work and rigorous selection, id say Harry missed 90% of those stages and went straight into training. Would he be there if he wasnt Prince Harry

 

Bad language and personal attacks aren't allowed on not606, you're very close to the limit of having your post removed.

I'll leave it this time but any further comments including profanities will be removed without any further warning.

 

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Right, so your point now is that he had some preferential treatment in securing a position in the army because he is a Roayl. Stunning insight there.

You also seem to suggest that he can pick what he wants to do. If that is so, then he chose to put himself in a position of some danger, the same experienced by all members of Apache flight crews (whetherh they crash because of being shot down, weather, pilot error or otherwise). Are you suggesting that he should be criticised for that ?

 

Let me spell myviews out in very simple terms:

- The war itself is unjust and part of Americas total spectrum dominance not some fanciful "war on terror". To kill the understandably annoyed indigeonous people (Taleban now currently is a very loose term for angry muslim who's son was killed by coalition artillery/drone/plane/helicopter) is not something to be applauded.
- To do it from a poition of invincibility because your priveleged position in the class system allowed you to take up the "coolest" military vocation you could find i even less reason to see it applauded.

 

Okay, so your position is that becausethe war is unjust, those who are sent to fight it do not deserve any praise or recognition.

A defensible point of view, I suppose. Most people tend to draw a distinction between the decision of those who decide which conflicts are to be fought and the commitment of those who go where ever our representatives send them.

 

There has never been, and never will be, a referendum on the issue. I wonder why.

To my knowledge most people like myself who think the Royal family shouldn't exist are either too lazy to join a Republican protest group, don't want to be attacked by people who support the Royal family, are tired of null arguments for their existence and just want to be left in peace, or don't wish the prime minister to become an all powerful president.

I personally think that the monarchy should be deposed and an electable position with the same responsibilities should be offered. However, while a dwindling percentage of people retain religious belief and some degree of nationalism, it will not happen. That's ok for me, as long as they stay out of my thought process, I just don't really want them rammed down my throat. Unfortunately being the product of an ever narrowing gene pool and years of manipulating the cognitive fears of a higher power in lowly surfs has made them celebrities

Still, good luck to anyone who supports them, and massive good luck to any soldier in a warzone.

 

Never been a referendum but the opinion polls are pretty clear.

I'm not fuzzy minded about it, but I think they're good value for money. A decent royal wedding draws the same sort of worldwide coverage as the Olympics at a fraction of the cost, and about the only thing that England has that can get the whole of Ne York or LA all in a tizzy is a visit by a second or third string royal. Also, somebody has to open all those care homes and shopping centres.

All of this has nothing to do with the harry though, who is entitled to the same amount of respect as any other soldier, however much one thinks that shoudl be (significant in my view).

 

I am personally of the opinion that anyone who voluntarily takes up arms to go and kill for no justifiable reason tend to have some form of sociopathic issues. Well thats certainly my impression of the 4 people I have known from childhood that have signed up. One boy was severely on the Autistic spectrum and thy gave him a rifle ffs

 

Ah, so you want to be part of an anarcho-syndicalist commune, where we each take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week?

 

Provided that all decisions are ratified by a full vote of the members in open session

 

A brilliant trick by those in power. Nothing like an Olympics, royal wedding, jubilee, <insert generic patriotic party excuse here> to distract the population from the crushing austerity forced on them from people who come from extreme privelege. They are running short on festivals though and patriotism may start to run dry in a year or two

 

Yes, by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs...

 

There homes and Palaces do not even receive a tenth of the visitors as the Palace t Versailles last time I checked... So maybe they'd be better value if we chopped off their heads

The opinion polls aren't clear or worthy of discussion. There's usually an agenda there. Have you ever taken part in one? Me neither. I'm sure they showed a segment on the Big Fat Quiz of the Year where a BBC reporter was asking loads of people about the Jubilee, and most told her where to go... Because they weren't in London, or the North East which seems to retain a great attachment to her. Maybe we should have a poll on here? Would be more interesting than an opinion poll of those we don't know or can't track, I think.

 

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/ipsos-mori-diamond-jubilee-poll-may-2012-tables.pdf

Take a look. Fair question, signficant sample, clear result.

As a opponent of all things undemocratic, you must bow to the will of the people.

 

also

MORI asked the same question, &#8220;Would you favor Britain becoming a republic or remaining a monarchy?,&#8221; between 1993 and 2006. In 1993, 18 percent favored a republic, and in 2006 the figure was exactly the same, suggesting that opinion on this point hadn&#8217;t shifted.


Seems to be pretty constant.