They claim to know the truth. They say they know who is responsible but won't come forwards to the police because they fear for the lives of them and their family. They deserve justice, but they already claim to know the truth.
You can correct me if I'm wrong here but I thought they knew the identities of the kidnappers, not the identity of the person, or people, that actually ordered the killing? I can't imagine someone high enough up in the IRA to order someone's kidnapping and death would be walking into her flat without a mask and taking her in front of eye witnesses. Only seen a small piece on the news about this though so I might have missed some key details etc
Well, that's probably true. I don't know how far up the chain they're aware of. From the sounds of the Boston College recordings, it sounds like Gerry Adams probably is guilty of that- even if there isn't enough evidence to fairly charge him with it. Getting the people that did the act would be one part of justice though- and it may lead to more conclusive evidence of who ordered it.
Nicely put Frank If you understand the situation in Ireland right now because our government sold out the country so they could rub elbows with the Merkels of this world then it goes some ways towards understanding why Sinn Fein are gaining support.
I'm sorry, who murdered who again? You could be talking about any number of people from both sides of the channel as well as up north. Never mind the police over there had a penchant on pinning bombings on to the first paddy they could find. Forgetting lessons are we Innocent until proven n all that
With the thread title being Gerry Adams ... Right! Irrelevant, chief! Yeah, right. Adams doesn't have an innocent bone in his body. Everyone who's lived in NI for any amount of time knows what both Adams and McGuiness did in their early IRA years. I'd happily see them rot behind bars for all eternity.
Never said he does mate. Never was a fan, never supported Sinn Fein. Just saying you might just want to wait and see what happens. So two of his former chums implicated him, that's all i know about it, I do not know the circumstances of those two people and if they are possibly benefiting from this sharing of information or not. I mean it's not like there might be some that still hold a grudge and we KNOW the police forces are above reproach... rgiht? RIGHT? So all I am saying is I will wait to see if they charge him, in fact I won;t wait, I don't really care. The only concern I actually have is that this is some skullduggery to **** with election outcomes in my country. Otherwise, if he is charged and found guilty them fine, I just hope for the sake of justice you are not on the jury
I couldn't care less about the man, Sisu. I'm not a fan of the police force (any!), either, come to that. As for political skullduggery, surely that never happens? Whiter than white, politicians are.
Hold on a minute I take it all back, McGuinness has come out and said that very thing. While it is possible, agreeing with Martin McGuinness makes my skin crawl, I really really really do not ****ing like that guy at all.
I thought SF were very pro-Europe!! Think the DUP should be as well but that is another matter entirely. Like most comments on here there were atrocities committed on both sides so while it is impossible for the victims to forgive we certainly don't want NI to fall back to the old ways.
They are in fact "pro Europe" that's true, I am not a supporter but I did read that today somewhere. Even if they promised to sink Europe with a torpedo I still would not vote for them either way but if they are pro Europe then they are no different than the other parties. Pro Europe means Con the people you serve, cannot have two masters, so either the EU controls your government or you do.
Indeed Suso, I've watched in admiration (objectively, like how Hitler out chest thumped the allies in the early years) as SF up here in the north went from being the miltant, literally, outsiders to being the institution. They take the lead on "young" issues such as Gay marriage while the evangelical unionists are seen as saying no to that... They picked education as one of their pet departments because they knew they could under the socialist umbrella risk talking of dissembling the segregated edeucation system, saving Westminster money and look to the neutral as if they were tearing down the sectarian divide at the crucial age...All the while knowing the unionists would yet again honk NO! they have outwitted the unionist political class at every turn and the bonus has been the almost republicanesque (yank version) reliance of unionism on a increasingly bitter and far right protestant working class who felt betrayed to begin with and now believe their politicians to be impotent. That's where the danger lies now...
The thought of a Sinn Fein government in the republic is terrifying. I honestly feel that the **** would hit the fan again and possibly become cross border nonsense as well. There's a well of anger just waiting to be tapped. Mid you politicians are impotent. ****ing wheel greasers.
Ironically it will be the saving of the Unionist up here. They Prey SF feck up if they get into power down there.....as I say up here with the cross party veto everyone can promise all without having to deliver. SF get in down your way they might have to introduce actual policy!!!!
And Dave, this is how much our country/countries has grown recently. As the likes of me and Suso who are quite quite different predict that what I assume you fear a descent into sectarian monologue. Well were all sitting back eyebrow up saying..."Well! Go on then, govern without blaming someone waving another flag......!" It's a slow process but in this "give me now" generation they don't give a **** who's to blame in the past, they're too cowardly to go blow themselves up because the old guy said so and they just see the old rebels on each side failing to give them a job but aren't so thick that the new lot hoodwink them into doing it all again...I hope.
Well said again Frank. Hopefully not. I think though that unlike then the majority of unemployed idle youths these days get more angry now about a player's stats in the new FIFA than politics.
I promised not to comment further on this thread and I will not comment upon the situation in Northern Ireland. However, to answer Frank, My worry was/is that the whole topic could be picked-up by the GC types and used as a vehicle to just insult and cause trouble.
