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OT Gaza, the Algerian donation and the closed thread

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    Gaza, Sudan Ukraine, all part of the same s**t.

    Even the UN are part of this fake world morality, as if Gaza is not enough evidence of UN complicity.

    Those ****ing Rothschilds and the group of a few other families.

    RothsRael is heading for that oil off the coast of Gaza
     
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    The 15 year old US kid that got stomped on by the Israeli police gives his testimony as to what happened and they cut him off for this Zionist c**t Barbara boxer governor of California to go on a pro Israel rant.
    Video
    http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4505836/barbara-boxer

    is it any wonder they have no clue what is going on in the world over there.
     
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    Oh not this **** again!!
    Sis, I'll not go through the whole process of rebuttal and debunking (though it is pretty straightforward) as we'll get bombarded again with several hundred of your fellow propeller-heads' easily disproved zit-speak . Isn't it priceless that the good old internet has brought together every crank who used to be ignored on park benches and ignored in pub snugs to sip on their two-hour-lasting half of mild, but now have Photoshop, the unverified parts of Wikipedia and David Icke's website at their disposal (you ****ing quoted ICKE on my thread! But can I remind you (and the mods) it IS my thread, it's about Israel's disproportionate reaction to Hamas's CALCULATED provocation, and it has **** all to do with preposterous 9/11 conspiracies, nor crypto-Nazi allusions to so-called Zionist conspiracies on par with the forged Protocols of Zion.

    You've no need to say the same thing 300 times just because you've Googled yet another cranksite, so just give it a rest if you haven't got anything new to say, eh?
     
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    Norman Finklestein on this round of murder, informative, this guy knows this subject well.

    2 things limited Netanyahu's murderous crimes.
    international tolerance of Palestinian deaths and Israeli tolerance of IDF deaths.

    Finklestein also DESTROYS the tunnels myth.
    When that tyrant in Egypt came to power, he sealed the tunnels at the Egypt end. To this day they remain CLOSED
    Israel could have done the same.
    He also points out that in on the Hamas side, they have shovels and f**ing spoons, Israel has the equipment to makes their wall go deeper than the tunnels.

    Obama's fake condemnation, just like Clinton's in Timor, when the massacring continues to the point where the UN can no longer remain silent and the US puppet Ban Ki Moon eventually opens his mouth after several UN schools were hit, then the respective US president gives the signal this needs to end because well, they look ridiculous and lose any creditability. Exact same s**t when they hit Lebanon, Condalisa Rice actually kept that slaughter going for another 2 f**ing weeks by her actions, and in those last days Israel dropped thousands of tons of cluster munitions.

    What this tragic situation has shown YET AGAIN is that the international Criminal Court is a f**ing joke. A joke, it is part of the same f**ing system, UN NATO ICC, who only punish people for fighting wars the US covertly starts and blames them on genocide, like the Sudanese, like Yugoslavia, they failed on Syria. Failed on Iran.

    Is anyone going to try and say that there should not be US government and military officials up on ICC charges? Tony Blair should be on the ICC wanted list for f**'s sake.

    Listen to the Finklestein, he knows his f**ing s**t. He's been into this for decades, his parents were in nazi camps.
    http://normanfinkelstein.com/2014/norman-finkelstein-on-democracy-now-gaza-ceasefire/
     
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    The point was BBC are liars, not the 9\11 theory. Some of the s**t you've come out with in this thread is further from reality than Ickes Lizard people ffs

    Like your total delusion over Iran, Donga BBC history at it's best, also, you believe any and all conspiracy theory concerning United ffs, you make me <laugh> At least the 9\11 subject that affected everyone on earth is worth examining, unlike your football conspiracies <doh>
    Are you finished apologising for Israel yet, at least you retracted your shameful utterly ignorant comments about the three teens when donations were made to people living through hell when the Palestinians slaughter was being discussed, it seems now and then you can drag yourself back into the real world, bravo


    You see, it is obvious you are a point scoring dick, you ignored the stuff about Syrian Danny, or the fake BBC documentary about Syria, and jumped on the 9\11 thing. You argue like an Israeli apologist, and totally ignore the legitimate arguments and take up illegitimate ones, PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE, you argue like water flows. BBC were obviously given that "news" too early which is why they reported it before it happened
     
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    Can't be arsed, and really can't see how any of this helps the innocents of Palestine. But since you threw the mental imagery in there, the view of you as a demented salmon swimming against the river of fact and truth to try and find some hospitable pond in which to dump your conspiracy spawn, is quite amusing. You still reckon the moon-landings were faked? :emoticon-0113-sleep
     
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    It's a shame that sisu has chosen to ruin this thread with his tin foil hat, twatish, conspiracy theories, as opposed to keeping it focused on the facts of the attrocity that was being committed in Gaza.
     
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    Of which, even on this thread, there appears universal condemnation. But I'll say again though, Iran has been pumping arms and money into terrorist groups (as has Saudi Arabia) since '78. No argument that the Americans, French and us have been doing the same for over a century, and all because of oil. At least it is 'their' area, but let's not pretend their hands are ****ing clean.

    But back to the subject on topic - don't know if you saw Newsnight last night? After the Waresi resignation the Tories had wheeled out some glove-puppet controlled by Lynton Crosbie, with the general line that Waresi is a rampant self-publicist, in line with a Tory version of Diane Abbott. "Why then" asked kirsty wark, in one of her few ever moments of clarity,"Has she never been sacked if you all regard her so poorly?" And Ming Campbell asked why the country can't officially censure Israel for its disproportional reaction. "But you see, said this gonk, that unless we can equally condemn Hamas and Israel, we would be siding against Israel and risking losing an ally", "But everyone here DOES condemn Hamas, but its not not Hamas that is killing thousands of innocent civilians in UN centres and schools".

    THAT'S what we should be focussed on, not ****ing Photoshopped pictures of Israelis in 1930's Nazi uniforms.
     
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    I don't quite agree there. As in some quarters theres been an eagerness to decry 'both sides' as opposed to admitting and accepting that Israel were carrying out a hideous attroctiy in Gaza.

    I didn't see Newsnight, but it sounds par for the course. This unwarranted and indefensible military action needs to signal a sea change in how the West deal with Israel and hopefully this will be aided by a more moderate approach coming to the fore in their own political arena. I watched a number of interviews last night with calls for peace and the need for negotiation and even final settlement over Palestine, coming from within Israel itself. We'll see if this view gains any traction in the coming months.....
     
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    Enough gas off of Gaza's coast to make it a small Dubai. Israel no doubt wants it all, and of course, the US want Israel to have it all, and the UN will just watch from the sidelines.

    Claimed Tony Blair was helping out Israel by scuppering a British Gas deal with the Palestine Authority in the past. No surprise there

    [video=youtube;rWNb5Oho-Wg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rWNb5Oho-Wg[/video]

    Not holding my breath for the ICC to press charges against a single Israeli.


    The media don't really mention this at all do they. That's coincidental, and convenient for Israel of course, nothing to do with influence.. <doh>


    So that's Gaza's gas sorted out, now Eastern Ukraine has deposits that need some freedom.

    Where ever there's oil or gas, the bankers go in guns blazing as they are doing right now in Eastern Ukraine. Joe Biden's progeny is ready to reap the rewards of spilled civilian blood. Putin? You gotta be ****ing kidding me
     
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    [video=youtube;4kF6OC8g1Zw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4kF6OC8g1Zw[/video]
     
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    You may need to sign in to tube to watch this.
    All the UK gov screaming about Assad, the fake documentaries, and here we have war crimes, intentional and I bet you not one f**ing charge is brought against those murdering f**ing Israelis.

    [video=youtube;sbZxbziFV5w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=sbZxbziFV5w[/video]


    How can the UK Gov open it's f**ing mouth now against anyone after remaining silent for this, Cameron f**ing loves Israel, but it goes deeper than that, not only Cameron, the US UN the lot, just f**ing watched.

    Even UN workers being murdered by Israel was not enough for them to speak out until it happens 3 4 5 6 times. Then that c**t Obama said something because he had to. He gave the signal to Bibi, this has to end, he could have made sure it never happened, they all could have. Just like Timor & Rwanda.
     
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    For you rocket quoting lovers.

    The "rockets" have killed 29 Israelis since 2001 when they first started being fired.

    I am not about to devalue 29 lives, but in the context of the "terror" Israel lives under, this is an important fact. They are also home made projectiles, people think of rockets and they get a different picture to what is actually being fired.

    29 deaths of Rockets, Palestinian deaths from Israeli rockets missiles, artillery, naval bombardment, mortars, laser guided bombs? since 2001, Thousands. Israel has killed more Palestinian civilians in a few minutes, killed 20 members of one family in seconds. 5700 Gazans killed in that time. A slow genocide

    I'll await the ICC's charges, there should be a whole batch of them coming up shortly followed by international warrants and so on
     
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    Here is what Palestinians suffered before Hamas fired one rocket n 2001.
    [video=youtube;1pOLNtDsTho]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pOLNtDsTho&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    See some w**k bag protestors went round our local Sainsburys removing all "Israeli" goods (I'm assuming they relied on some website to tell them what was what like) from the shelves and dumped them into trolleys.

    See, this is exactly what I f**king hate. By all means as an individual, boycott a business that you believe deals with or makes profit from Israel or any other outrage that's your thing at the moment. If enough people do it, the business will change its practices to suit the mood of its customers.

    But the moment you do this type of ****? You're taking away my choice to protest you ****. You're making the decision for me you arrogant f**kbag. Even if I supported whatever cause they were doing, I take **** from that trolley and buy it.

    f**king hate people that's it not enough they want to protest or boycott or whatever the f**king Stalinist little pricks decide I will too like it or not.
     
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    Surely these protesters are just raising awareness Frank.How did you hear about it?Word of mouth/local media?
    Ordinary people around the planet want to register their disgust at Israel's action in Gaza/West bank and a consumer boycott
    is one way they can express that disgust.The trolley thing is an age old method that has been used by many protest groups
    down the years to make their point. (Anti-apartheid,animal rights etc.)

    For the record,I stopped buying Israeli stuff at least two decades ago and many friends do the same.
    I also regularly visit my local fair trade shop to buy Palestinian olive oil (Zaytoun) to support local farmers.

    People involved in this boycott campaign are generally very knowledgable about what is produced in Israel.
     
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    If they want to go further than boycotting items or shop, fine. Stand outside peacefully and respectful of other shoppers with a list of items on a leaflet. If someone truly cares they will avoid the items on the list or walk away when they find out the shop sells them .....if they do not however, they have the right, while it is still legal to do so to buy what they want, where they want, without harassment.

    My point is not that they register their disgust...That's democratic. Not allowing me the same opportunity to decide to protest because they've decided for me? Undemocratic. Goes for any target of protest. I mean I wouldn't buy fur. I'd avoid people who would, I'd even petition that it be made illegal to do so. What I would not do is harrass people that do, or interfere with another persons property in some egocentric protest that is more about me than the cause........

    It means more that you boycott OR because you chose to, you've made the effort to do so, actively found out what is sold where and avoided it. That's commendable. You're not forcing it on others though.....

    These people can't accept that there's a big chance, even after seeing the list that the majority of people just won't care enough to copy their boycott. That's not good enough for them. Solidarity isn't what they want, obedience is what they want.
     
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    Yeah,its designed to disrupt the flow of people through a check-out area and give staff the hassle of retuning
    the products to the shelves.I agree leafleting at the door can be another strong and informative method of protest.

    Mind you,I think I'm a little more supportive of these tactics than yourself Frank <laugh>

    BOYCOTT ISRAELI PRODUCTS <ok>
     
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    You're some piece of work frank. Must be galling that Israels actions this time around have left no legs for you apologists and Israel supporters to stand on, by it's murderous f**ing actions, you just have no moral ground.

    These boycotts are rightly costing Israel money.


    Funny ****ing world, Israel destroys Gaza and the international community gets to rebuild gaza, over and ****ing over, Israel is never forced to pay reparations yet they extort reparations for WWII.

    ****ing sickening hypocrisy.
     
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