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OT Gaza, the Algerian donation and the closed thread

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  1. Garlic Klopp

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    If it is true that the reporter said the woman was prepared to strap on explosives and fight when she actually was stating how many children were being killed then the reporter should be sacked. It is one thing to put a slant on the news which may reflect the political views of the owners of the TV station, as Fox do, but it is completely different to state a complete lie and deliberately mistranslate to support that lie.

    As I do not speak Arabic I haven't a clue what she said which is why it is important that what she said is translated accurately.
     
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    As Orthodox Jews form less than 15% of the population (according to Israeli figures) then how can you base your conclusion on their understanding without asking what the attitude of Mainstream Jews is?
     
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    It's tragic irony. You also have to put blame on the nations that are enabling their war crimes and murder. The UN for doing **** all because of said nations.

    Pretty ****ing disgusting. With the will the UN could stop this in an act, granted it would need to be aggressive but it could be done, easily, with the will. While the peacekeepers are on the wrong ****ing border doing little or nothing, training people patrols and such. Guess who demanded them there and their numbers increased, yes Israel.

    If Israel demanded peacekeepers between Israel and Gaza they would be there in a month.
     
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    Disgusting lies is what it is mate. One crime to lie about what she said but even more sad was the words she was lying about.

    There is too much of this, that was blunt propaganda, most of it is far more subtle, a sly dehumanising of a people and suggesting of ideas. What ever you think f one side or the other it is still true that this is done, against Palestinians.
     
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    What's the problem? RTE have been doing that on behalf of the Catholic Church for decades! So they've had plenty of practice.
     
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    Another "surgical" strike by Israel, minutes before the ceasefire.
    [video=youtube;NANqcKIrbV0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NANqcKIrbV0[/video]


    When you do this sort of thing, how can you not kill civilians.

    Carrying out an attack knowing civilians will die is the same as killing them intentionally.
     
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    former IDF, Israeli, Miko Peled on Crosstalk
    Note almost all if not all pro Israel commentators claim without equivocation that Hamas killed those 3 teens and ignore that 9 Palestinians were murdered, 2 before the teens went missing and 7 while the fake search went on, when Netanyahu knew they were dead. This is what happens when Hamas agree to unify with the Palestinian authority and agree to EU and US peace deals. what did Netanyahu do when Palestine was granted observer status in the UN.. he went nuts and he goes nuts at any attempt of Palestine to join the UN


    According to the guest from tel Aviv Gideon Levy, Israel declared they would smash Hamas, then Hamas fired rockets, after not firing rockets when 1000+ homes were invaded 7 people killed in that time too, of course I bet someone on here knows better than the people in Israel saying this<doh>
    [video=youtube;OJDUFhNnwbg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OJDUFhNnwbg[/video]
     
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    Now the US claim Russia did it, and Russia is shelling Ukraine and Russia shot down two fighters. Evidence.. the US state department said their evidence is "social media" <doh>


    HRW said there have been war crimes in Eastern Ukraine, but with the media having successfully amalgamated Putin Russiaphobia and Eastern Ukrainians into the one entity, no one cares that Ukrainian kids get turned to red mist by Ukrainian shells, it's Putin's fault, or the Israeli defence, the separatists are using human shields.

    Note the same rhetoric from Kiev and Israel, both two US backed regimes. Both mirror each other, media dehumanise both Palestinians and Eastern Ukrainians and any crimes committed by Kiev or Israel are in fact the fault of the "terrorists".


    You just have to look at the numbers to see through the bulls**t and apologists.
    2nd intifada Palestine killed 1 Israeli civilian and partially destroyed 1 home with their "terror rockets" the only means of resistance and really, the only time the media get interested. Palestinians 1400 dead, 1150 of them civilians, 350 of them children, 6,000 homes, 4 hospitals, 20 ambulances, 100+ mosques where people were sheltering.

    This time, is it 40 Israeli deaths? 4 Civilian, the military ones don't count as Hamas ones don't count because they are fighting each other, the invasion by Israel hold the blame for those deaths. Palestinians, fast approaching 800 deaths, again 80+% civilians. 4 civilians compared to over 600, over 5,000 injured, 1500 of them children.


    What is absolutely par for the course is the nations and unions most responsible for the suffering of Jews and are the sources of the vast majority of antisemitism are the ones enabling this holocaust slash Warsaw ghetto in slow motion.

    The Germans called the French resistance "terrorists". They called Russian resistance "terrorism" Czech the same and any other nation.
    The Nazis carried out collective punishment for resistance.
    The Nazis militarised society
    The Nazis indoctrinated the young.
    The Nazis repeated the lies over and over until they became truth, like we are seeing with "it all started with Hamas" Hamas are a resistance group, of an occupation.
    The Nazis dispossession of people's of land businesses and rights because of their religion\ethnicity is being repeated.
    The Nazis dehumanised peoples through propaganda, we see this every day in the media.

    One can only shudder to think what might have happened Gaza without the age of information, the initial cleansing forced out half of the populations.
    I mean FFS a to be PM Sharon blew up homes with civilians hiding in them. He got a f**ing Nobel peace prize, after carrying out a massacre, the award is a joke.


    The two state solution is a joke. The one state solution which seems more impossible is in fact the only answer. The 2 state seems more realistic and much quicker achievable but I can't see why Arabs and Jews can't live on the one bit of land, they managed it before Israel was created.

    iraqi Jews sat in Israel watching TV crying when they saw what the US was doing to Iraq. So, Jews from Iraq loved their country, one full of and run by Arabs. Again more evidence that Arabs are not out to "wipe out the Jews".

    Israel has been bombing assassinating and brutalising for what seems forever, generations. Yet the delusional believe it is the nations around Israel responsible.
     
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    C4 John Snow back from Gaza
    [video=youtube;mR1LGoNg5p4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=mR1LGoNg5p4[/video]


    1300 kids injured 166 dead. Not a war crime? imagine what would happen if Russia did this in Ukraine, what Kiev is actually doing now.
     
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    Hamas started it with Rockets in the 2000s?

    Eerily familiar, from what occurred not 9 years before.
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    The Jenin Massacre, again Sharon

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    More than 150 Israeli tanks, armored personnel carriers and artillery, backed by F-16 fighter jets, continue to attack Jenin refugee camp, home to 15,000 Palestinian refugees, living on one square kilometer.
     
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  12. Foredeckdave

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    Who needs a Propaganda Dept when you've got Sisu?

    Nice one fella! One of your best one-eyed rants to date
     
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  13. Garlic Klopp

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    In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king
     
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    ABC report on Rockets into Israel, and show Palestinians and rubble as Israelis.
    [video=youtube;s6L6O-Nm7mk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=s6L6O-Nm7mk[/video]
     
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    Out of interest sisu. Besides posting on here about it...

    What are you doing to help the Palestinians? I assume you take part un demonstrations? Done your bit for palestinian aid. Hell once you cross the point of no return, strap some explosives to yourself and blow stuff up.
     
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    Some Netanyahu quotes, the first about American being very easy to "move" and not a problem. But hey, if I say that Israel has a lot of influence over US policy it's ranting, but Netanyahu has said it, he must be antisemitic.


    [video=youtube;K9KDhsFFfGU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=K9KDhsFFfGU[/video]


    Netanyahu In 2001: 'America Is A Thing You Can Move Very Easily
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/netanyahu-in-2001-america_n_649427.html

    Imagine that armchair historians who say Israel has no influence over US foreign policy in the Middle East.
     
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  17. UnitedinRed

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    Israel has no control over the US.

    Just as queen elizabeth II isnt the real leader of the US.
     
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  18. DirtyFrank

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    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100281417/is-the-left-anti-semitic-sadly-it-is-heading-that-way/

    I don't agree with all of this and the telegraph is openly a conservative/right wing paper (although O'Reilly claims to be part of the left) but is there an issue with separating criticism/protest of the state of Israel's actions with those who believe the world is run by an evil gang of Der Ewige Jude?

    Why did the Jew become the worlds bogeyman? it goes past the creation of the state of Israel or stemming from the Nazi party in Germany , they've been blamed for everything from drinking the blood of children, owning the worlds finances, to being evil magicians and causing the black death over a period of 2000 years. From the crusades to the enlightenment the Jew has been held up as distrustworthy, an outsider...

    what makes so many people ready to believe that countries largely Christian in origin (and all of which with the exception of the US have had purges of their own Jewish communities at some point in history)turn around and allow themselves to be puppets of a religion they are traditionally hostile to; as opposed to having their own strategic reasons, however unpalatable, for keeping a pro western country smack bang in the middle of a hostile but important area of the world in terms of energy resources..

    Does the idea sit nicer with people that there's a "foreign" enemy within rather than facing the fact that your own country and its people can plan and execute strategies that result in mass slaughter? We played the same game with the same bloody results in African countries and Asian countries over the years but the same vehemence and conspiracy theories aren't as readily attached and accepted.

    Is it a psychological weakness that you need that conspiracy theory to protect you from the idea that as a citizen you are partially responsible for your governments actions even if your share of the blame is something as basic as demanding a standard of living your country can/could not sustain without acquiring resources from outside of the state itself? That when your government obtains those resources in a unpleasant manner, you cry and protest but continue to enjoy the resources that lead to those decisions? Does it make you feel better/absolve you of responsibility to say "what can I do, it's all controlled by a shadowy Jewish elite that can't be touched"
     
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  19. UnitedinRed

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    Because its all made up frank.

    The money claim stems from christians not being able to lend money to other christians. They borrowed off jews and were therefore in debt to jews.

    Jews do not rule the world. They do not control america or britain.

    All anti jewish myths are fabricated. History is full of people hating jews. Quite possibly the worlds most persecuted peoples.
     
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    60% of all donations to both Republicans and Democrats in the US are from pro Israel interests. <yikes>

    is it any wonder the US vetoes everything the UN manages to eventually scrape together.

    After the Suez crises, Eisenhower ordering out Israel Britain and France out of the country, Israel was in particular not happy about this having already achieved some objectives.
    Israeli lobbyists in the US then went to congress to get congress to overturn the president's decision because back then the structure was such that the President can start a war but congress paid the bills ect so the president needed congressional backing, but there was only two congressional offices open to the Zionist lobbyist groups. This was the 50s. By 1981 I think, they the Zionist lobbies could boast having access to almost all congressional offices because they spend over 2 decades lobbying to change the system

    Couple that with 60% of all donations to both parties from Pro Israel groups and people, all the major media owned by pro Israel people, Murdock for example, a rabid Zionist and proper dirtbag.

    This is the reality.
     
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