Not all punk music was about screaming and shouting, a lot of it was about attitude, even this was considered a punk song at the time. [video=youtube;uMENZkL6hBo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMENZkL6hBo[/video] I always really liked this on the B side too, fifty seconds long and most of it's silence... [video=youtube;u9NP52orQWo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9NP52orQWo[/video]
The same guy! [video=youtube;LTKORcr1jhY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTKORcr1jhY[/video] [video=youtube;-K4cEocL5kI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4cEocL5kI[/video]
The first vid is very raw but great footage all the same. The second, a great song from the classic and unique sounding album, Cut. They really came on in a couple of years. [video=youtube;NnfCw3a-Bq8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnfCw3a-Bq8&feature=related[/video] [video=youtube;QgXnkXhnGvc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgXnkXhnGvc[/video]
Ha - never knew Frenchy was front man for LMB&P. Must admit lost touch with him when I moved away which must have co-incided with his grave robbing - doesn't surprise me. I'd heard it was Roland who moved to NZ to be a sheep farmer, maybe CF went to do a bit of shearing. First person I bumped into when moved back to Hull was Mike O Brien, at a pre season North Ferriby game. Ex Z Men singer ... never had him into football. And WTF is wrong with my PC, all I get is exclamation marks, can't see any of the clips
John Shuttleworth is God. End of. Also got to disagree that The Cure are described as Punk on here. I think the misconception is that like most bands formed in the late 70s they were initially influenced by Punk, but as they found their own sound it was clearly Gothic. They are widely regarded as one of the founders of Gothic music and anyone who listened to their albums like The Forest and The Walk wouldn't describe them as anything else.
Gothic didn't exist until the 80's, when The Cure started out they were definitely part of the Punk movement and Three Imaginary Boys was very much a punk album. Smith himself said he was trying to emulate the sound of the Buzzcoocks and his ambition was to become the Punk Beatles.
Not disagreeing that they might have been lumped in with the Punk movement when they first started, but like most bands they evolved until they found their own sound and that was unarguably Gothic. You would do well to find a single Goth that didn't regard the Cure as a purely Gothic band, the web is full of expert opinions that say the same and their music speaks for itself.
but you are right. there was a lot of new stuff circa 76-79 and there was debate about whether it was punk or not. if it didnt have the edge and if it was more melodic it would be labeled as new wave (jam, rezillos, buzzcocks, etc). nobody mentioned gothic until the 80s, but by then there was nothing punk coming out anyway. one of the magazines, sounds, i think but maybe melody maker, cornered the market in the skinhead end of punk and called it "oi". this included bands like 999, the uk subs and others. but even the punk bands werent punk bands after about 1979. they grew up and moved on. anything new claiming to be punk after that wasn't. there was some bloody good and inventive music from that 76-79 era and it blew all the established crap out of the water. get it said in 2 or 3 minutes and then do another song. unlike existing album bands who would make one "song" last 20 minutes with a boring 15 minute widdly widdly guitar solo that made studying milk bottles seem very appealing.
