I'm willing to give most genres of music a hearing but I just found this particular era of 'music' nothing but a lot of loud drivel, tuneless drivel at that. I'm just glad it didn't last long at the time although of course some people will raise it from the dead now and again.
When God save the Queen was released in 77,the No1 single in the UK singles chart was..The Brotherhood of man,with Save all your kisses for me. You tube the brotherhood of man. Go on !
Kempton hit the nail right on the head there. I was born at the arse end of the 70s so these ramblings don't come from personal experience, just as a lover of music. The whole reason punk happened was to "rip it up and start again". Music at that time largely became stale and generally ****. Self indulgent prog rockers writing two hours pieces of music, set to ice dance. None of it spoke to the kids. It needed a jump start and punk was just that. The kids reclaimed the music. There was some superb music in this small window known as punk and a lot of crap. But it's main legacy is what came from the punk scene. What the punk bands with the most talent evolved into and what the kids that watched these bands were inspired to create. Ska/mod revival, goth, psychobilly, new wave, new romantics, synthpop, indie rock, the list goes on. The late 70's and early 80's was one golden age in music and itself went went on to influence further generations. Now here's the Mekons [video=youtube;71s-T8oUTQs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71s-T8oUTQs[/video]
I like punks get up and go for it mentality, could do with a revival giving some of the awful ****e you hear in pubs and bars nowadays, play keyboards myself, not very punky but i get by
If i was an old skool punk i'd be tearing up my copy of Never Mind The Bollocks after seeing Lydon on that butter ad or on I'm a Celebrity. Obviously, i'm too young to remember any of the cult punk bands, so i only know the most popular lot- the clash, stranglers, sex pistols, buzzcocks, iggy pop & the stooges, damned, ramones, undertones etc. My era of music, early 2000s- 2007 maybe later, might not get the same recognition as those above in decades to come, although if some of the 80s stuff gets repeated on radio & telly it might. But it's still good to me. [video=youtube;BJIqnXTqg8I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJIqnXTqg8I[/video]
[video=youtube;CrwI1gKE4jI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrwI1gKE4jI[/video] [video=youtube;0vAa5wzbhaI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vAa5wzbhaI[/video] [video=youtube;Wb0kDhxBIoI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb0kDhxBIoI[/video]
That was a minority, and you're tarring a whole genre with it. The Clash started RAR (Rock Against Racism) and Sham69 gained a large NF following, until they did a massive gig one night and told all their NF fans to f**k off, as they didn't want them as fans. I like every genre you can think of really. As you've mentioned it, I love ska, soul and reggae... so not anti, just putting you right on punk. [video=youtube;e00GbuQIAac]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e00GbuQIAac[/video]
"it didn't last long" ??? it could be argued Punk began in the mid sixties (and in certain context with the begining of Rock n Roll) and is still prevalent today . Punk wasn't just the sex pistols :/ [video=youtube;hHqZ7nXhUrw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHqZ7nXhUrw[/video] there is a reason why Tim has 60 metres of cabling in his hand !!! crowd surfing in a dustbin
I don't need to I know how duff their records were, along with others but for punk the Sex Pistols other record more or less sums it up Pretty Vacant.
I bought NMTB the day it was released in 1977.Lydon does what he wants, always has done and always will do. It must be very frustrating for him that so many people don't listen to what he says just ape his accent or clothes. (Do you think he should be living in a squat and flicking Vs at people at his age?) GSTQ is the most infamous example of this. That song was saying 'Think for yourself- look at how passive and dumb we've let ourselves become'. You get some clowns like that tenfoot guy on ci who parrot the choruses like it makes them clever, rather than a part of the problem. Only the morons bought into 'uniform' and 'slogan' side of it. Unfortunately that was too many people and punk very quickly became a parody of itself and a cliche. Musically too, it went downhill very quickly. The pressure to conform was asphyxiating- in look, sound, politics, ideas. It died in late 77, then New Wave threw up a few good artists but just as much dross.
I think there's always a temptation to over-analyse punk, so I'll have a go too. It was basically an expression of anger from a generation that felt abandoned by successive governments - maybe that means we're due a revival.
Correct, that's exactly how we felt. Governments and society. We were all also waiting to be killed either by a ****ing H bomb, a ****ing IRA bomb or by Russian hordes plundering Europe. The late 70s sucked and thats why we did this. [video=youtube;Igq2KZ2uiCg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igq2KZ2uiCg[/video]
[video=youtube;5ipGhzrIi3s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ipGhzrIi3s[/video] Some punks didn't like this. The Jam wore suits. As HHAH says, it doesn't matter if you like this music or not. Great things were born of it !
Nope. Well wide of the mark. It was all about how naff and dull it was in the 70s. There was the more astute end of punk (Iggy, Devoto, Lydon....artists who challenged the audience) at the other end was the dimbo contingent who liked the sloganeering, the easy targets and the 'lifestyle' (Clash, TRB, Sham etc who sold the audience badges, t shirts and were 'conservative')
