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[QUOTEIt appears the only major investment into the field was from the US Military...........lol.][/QUOTE]

Maybe they invented it?.......................................just for the conspiracy theorists amongst us!
 
CDC Criteria For Ebola Transmission: &#8220;Being Within 3 Feet&#8221; or &#8220;In Same Room&#8221; Can Lead To Infection <yikes>

http://pontiactribune.com/cdc-crite...3-feet-or-in-same-room-can-lead-to-infection/


CDC definition of casual contact

Casual contact is defined as a) being within approximately 3 feet or within the room or care area for a prolonged period of time while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment or having direct brief contact (e.g., shaking hands) with an EVD case while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment.&#8221;
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I can't imagine it spreading nearly as bad in the US as it has in Africa. It's not a very contagious disease for one thing. I think with the better facilities outside Africa this will be contained much quicker- it's only in the 3rd world this is so deadly. A bit like MERS, I imagine most of the cases we hear about in the West will be from people traveling from infected regions- not actively spreading in our back garden.

There again, the US case is in Texas, so that's more or less 3rd world! <whistle> Ebola isn't prevalent in our wildlife- so it can only spread human to human- Africa unfortunately doesn't have that luxury.
 
Milk said:
I can't imagine it spreading nearly as bad in the US as it has in Africa. It's not a very contagious disease for one thing. I think with the better facilities outside Africa this will be contained much quicker- it's only in the 3rd world this is so deadly. A bit like MERS, I imagine most of the cases we hear about in the West will be from people traveling from infected regions- not actively spreading in our back garden.

There again, the US case is in Texas, so that's more or less 3rd world! <whistle> Ebola isn't prevalent in our wildlife- so it can only spread human to human- Africa unfortunately doesn't have that luxury.
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Agreed.

Difficult to spread in a country with highly developed infection control in place.

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carlthejackal said:
Agreed.

Difficult to spread in a country with highly developed infection control in place.

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Even in Africa where they don't have all the same facilities they've managed to quickly contain every other Ebola outbreak. They just reacted too slowly to this one and it got out of control. Major outbreak in the West? Almost zero chance.
 
CBS46 News has confirmed the Centers for Disease Control has issued guidelines to U.S. funeral homes on how to handle the remains of Ebola patients. Just in case you know.. am sure it is standard practise, yet it never happened before when there was an outbreak..




New England medical Journal
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1404505
&#8220;Phylogenetic analysis of the full-length sequences established a separate clade for the Guinean EBOV strain in sister relationship with other known EBOV strains. This suggests that the EBOV strain from Guinea has evolved in parallel with the strains from the Democratic Republic of Congo and Gabon from a recent ancestor and has not been introduced from the latter countries into Guinea. Potential reservoirs of EBOV, fruit bats of the species Hypsignathusmonstrosus, Epomopsfranqueti, & Myonycteristorquata, are present in large parts of West Africa.18 It is possible that EBOV has circulated undetected in this region for some time. The emergence of the virus in Guinea highlights the risk of EBOV outbreaks in the whole West African subregion&#8230;

The high degree of similarity among the 15 partial L gene sequences, along with the three full-length sequences and the epidemiologic links between the cases, suggest a single introduction of the virus into the human population. This introduction seems to have happened in early December 2013 or even before.&#8221;
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it is not the same Ebola as last time, or has evolved possibly
 
Sisu said:
it is not the same Ebola as last time, or has evolved possibly
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Almost certainly has evolved- diseases evolve very quickly due to the short lifecycle- plus they evolve to mutate frequently! The common cold is a perfect example of this- it mutates so quickly that you can catch a cold several times a year- completely fools your immune system.

Sorry... God changes the virus on a frequent basis for the benefit of humanity in a way that mere humans can not understand the benefits of. <laugh>
 
Milk said:
Almost certainly has evolved- diseases evolve very quickly due to the short lifecycle- plus they evolve to mutate frequently! The common cold is a perfect example of this- it mutates so quickly that you can catch a cold several times a year- completely fools your immune system.

Sorry... God changes the virus on a frequent basis for the benefit of humanity in a way that mere humans can not understand the benefits of. <laugh>
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<laugh>

The warning to Funeral homes appears a bit ominous tbh.

It's suspected this one is a lot more contageous and kills more infected than the last outbreaks.

The numbers back that up
 
Sisu said:
<laugh>

The warning to Funeral homes appears a bit ominous tbh.

It's suspected this one is a lot more contageous
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If in 17 days there isn't another case in Texas then we're clear. Can incubate for 21 days- and he's already been in isolation for a while. In less than three weeks we'll know if this is a dead-end. Just one person- it's easy to track everyone he's been in direct physical contact with and quarantine them at first sign.

The US is doing what Africa couldn't. Early detection, quarantine immediately.
 
We're not trying to scare anyone.. then says this
Texas Gov. Rick Perry has confirmed that the first US diagnosed Ebola patient, who is now in serious but stable condition in Dallas, had contact with children before he showed symptoms of the virus.
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<doh>

The guy who has been confirmed as having it went to the hospital and was sent home with antibiotics.. later to sus all was not well..
 
Milk said:
If in 17 days there isn't another case in Texas then we're clear. Can incubate for 21 days- and he's already been in isolation for a while. In less than three weeks we'll know if this is a dead-end. Just one person- it's easy to track everyone he's been in direct physical contact with and quarantine them at first sign.

The US is doing what Africa couldn't. Early detection, quarantine immediately.
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This.

When it is a single case or even low numbers, the follow up of contacts and their isolation can be done. Especially for a developed country.

The number of cases in these affected countries have long crossed the point where any follow up of contacts is even possible. The tardiness of the international organisations including WHO, and the US and other western governments in providing help is a real scandal.
 
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