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Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Captainchaos., Apr 9, 2019.

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Who's ignorant

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  1. cronemeister

    cronemeister Well-Known Member

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    Would you cycle in a cycle lane against oncoming traffic mate? Just curious. I wouldn't, despite the fact that it may be statistically safer.
     
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  2. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    for me they are both as bad as each other
    the motorist for getting out of his car and the cyclist for giving it large. just escalated the matter
    as mentoned above some cyclists believe they own the road.
    don't know who hit his car but that would be criminal damage

    guy shouting 'move your car' yet other cyclists where passing it
    just seems the cyclist wanted more confrontation than the motorist

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    • cyclists are most at risk when entering and exiting the cycle track
    • there are no rules about which side of the track to use but cyclists generally keep to the left
    • be aware of pedestrians and other road users who may need to cross the track
    • you're required by law to have a bell to alert other road users that you're there
    • you should always be considerate to other road users who give way to you
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    I do believe the cyclist was breaking the law by not having a bell on his cycle
     
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  3. Captainchaos.

    Captainchaos. Well-Known Member

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    Yes i would especially if it was empty and I was overtaking other cyclists on the left thus preventing lunatics in 4 x4s passing that have probably been up my arse for miles
     
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  4. Captainchaos.

    Captainchaos. Well-Known Member

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    I'll accept this answer
     
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  5. Captainchaos.

    Captainchaos. Well-Known Member

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    It's always cyclists causing bother

     
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  6. cronemeister

    cronemeister Well-Known Member

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    I don't think there's an obligation for the cyclist to use that particular lane though. Its not even a dedicated cycle lane, it's a portioned off part of the pavement for cyclists to use. If I were a proper cyclist I would be on the road rather than using that cycle lane and having to bump up and down kerbs and stuff. If it were a proper continuous cycle lane on the road the cyclist might have been a bit more inclined to use it but it's horses for course innit?
     
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  7. Captainchaos.

    Captainchaos. Well-Known Member

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    There's no such thing as a proper cyclist they're all the same. I mean seriously not one cyclist either side using a cycle lane. They're all at it these days because it's become fashionable riding around dressed like a preying mantis armed with a camera on their head looking to cause trouble.

    With all this crap on the news about giving the people what they want I think banning cyclists would be a start.
     
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  8. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    The bloke in the car looks to have little man syndrome and is really angry. I'm not convinced he's just not having a bad day and flew off the handle.

    I have to say though the number of cyclists using that road is not practical - that is very visually clear to any decent person. Some of my fellow cyclists will say "how is it unpractical, because the people in their cars have to wait and have a really long journey? Tough ****" That to me is just pure ignorance and selfish. And before anyone says, yes I am speaking from experience as someone who enjoys going out cycling myself, having friends in the cycling fraternity, and hearing how they all go on. For some reason they become obnoxious when they get near their bike. They've obviously tried to alleviate the issue by introducing a cycle lane, but the cyclists are very clearly choosing not to use it. I know why because I've heard them say it "I'm on a racing bike and want to go quicker, its really not suitable for me, and I have a right to be on the road anyway". Which is ironic given the very same people also suggest that people in cars shouldn't complain it holds them up! Unfortunately for this bloke though, cyclists do have a right to be on the road.

    I have to say 75% of the cyclists I encounter are inconsiderate tossers when around their bike. They'll happily weave in and out of traffic coming out of blind spots amongst many other offences. This isn't a small number, its the majority. Then they throw up holy hell if you get what they consider too close - ah so its only a one way street because the threat is greater to you on your bike. Funnily enough most drivers don't like you coming out blindspots because they'd prefer not to knock someone over you tit. You then get them riding in packs and they will ride two abreast so they can have a chat and they don't care if that means holding up a vehicle for a long stretch. Cyclists have a responsibility to start acting with a bit more consideration for other road users, in exactly the same way many car drivers need to.

    I also strongly believe, even as a cyclist, there are certain roads which are not suitable for cyclists. However until that is decreed by lawmakers this bloke will have to bite his lip.
     
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  9. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter Forum Moderator

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    Pardew is always to blame.
     
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  10. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

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    The driver is in the wrong. The cyclist has every right to be on the road end of.

    It matters not if there is a cycle lane, there is no requirement for him to use the lane.

    Cc, get yourself a bike and ride it through traffic and you will soon change your mind about cyclists.

    There are some truly ****ing mental people driving cars. On one occasion some years ago a lady in a volvo undertook me on a roundabout when I was turning right, she basically drove me off the road. I stopped on the road side, asked her what she was doing at which point she started revving her car and driving towards me threatening to run me over. I made a note of her number and reported her to plod. Plod came back to me and said there was nothing they could do as no one was injured.
     
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  11. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

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    Check out the Highway code regarding cyclists riding two abreast.

    It was mentioned the cyclist was on the middle of his lane. This is defensive positioning to prevent dickheads in cars overtaking on narrow roads when there is oncoming traffic making it very dangerous for the cyclist.
     
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  12. Schlem Boogerman

    Schlem Boogerman Well-Known Member

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  13. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    Fecking hell, that car driver is hormonal. What a tosser.
     
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  14. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    To be fair I did state that unfortunately for that bloke cyclists have a right to be on the road. There is no argument to be had in that respect. As I said I'm not sure that is a good example of a cyclist acting like a tit (there are plenty), the bloke seems really angry really quickly. My issue is more that the road itself is not suitable for cyclists and vehicles, that is pretty obvious. I've encountered loads of roads like on busy runs that simply do not work. The answer is not to simply say cyclists should not be on that road, or the drivers just have to wait and be patient. That doesn't actually address the very clear problem at hand. Their current solution is failing there and needs changed. Gosforth works for instance - they've spent a lot of time trying to make it work for both parties. It can be done. The road being unsuitable certainly does not excuse the behaviour, but it clearly does make for a readymade problem. They have tried to put a cycle lane in but unless they make it mandatory its a waste of space - literally every cycle on that vid is riding the other side of it. If cyclists don't want to use that lane, as they clearly don't, it should be ripped up and the road widened to give both parties some breathing space at the very least.

    Its ok stating CC should get on a bike but its a bit rich when cyclists behave the way they do also (there are some out there who just follow the rules of the road). I have a number of friends who are fairly serious about cycling. Lovely blokes, put them near their bike and they just lose all sense of being rational. Probably through bad experiences with bad drivers making them that way in some cases, but it isn't an excuse. You are are right there are some really bad drivers on the road - loads. Unfortunately there are a high proportion of knob head cyclists too who give no consideration to cars, but expect to be treated like royalty. As always with most things there are two sides to every story. The sooner both parties acknowledge that, the better place the road will be.
     
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  15. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    The only surprise for me is that the car wasn't a BMW <grr>
     
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  16. Heed

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    Cyclists have every right to be on the road, and treat the same as other road users. Having Insurance and Road Tax should be manditory.
     
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  17. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Completely agree with insurance - it is ridiculous that cyclists don't have insurance particularly how some of them ride.

    There is actually no such thing as road tax though. It was abolished a long time ago and replaced with vehicle tax. It applies to vehicles only. They justify now via pollution. Hence some vehicles are exempt if they have low emissions. Another government con of course when you look at the state of the roads we are now driving on. I don't think drivers would mind the tax so much if the roads were kept in better condition. Personally I think road tax should replace vehicle tax and cyclists should contribute. It affects them too - there is nothing worse than feeling that shudder from an unavoidable pothole.

    It would be interesting to see the reaction of cyclists if they had to contribute. I'm sure the answer would be "our bikes don't damage the roads, vehicles do".

    Another legacy of this Tory governments completely over the top austerity - potholes not cyclists <laugh>.
     
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  18. Captainchaos.

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    Your comment is exactly my point
     
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  19. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    What about pedestrian crossings? I seethe when I'm clearly waiting to cross at one and the car drives past without any intention whatsoever of stopping. ****ing ignorant ****s <grr>
     
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  20. jimileysbaldhead

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    As a casual cyclist I get infuriated when I get fined for having a sh!t in the middle of the road, yet horses get away it.
     
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