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OT - Another one bites the dust...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

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    No, it should be restored. Then we have an architectural building of interest for future generations to enjoy. **** modern eyesores, there's enough of those in this City with out adding to them. The Germans destroyed enough of our architectural buildings of interest, it's criminal that they are allowed to get into this state.
     
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  2. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

    Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC Well-Known Member

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    Never knew the architect, Daz. I lived there in 1970, in Wellington Street. Up steps to the front door, 3 floors of rooms above an old fruit warehouse. There was a cafe on the corner and Carlo Pratti's on Queen Street.

    Hell of a building.
     
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  3. SuitedandBooted

    SuitedandBooted Well-Known Member

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    Who's gonna fund the restoration though? If businessmen etc aren't willing to spend their money restoring these buildings whats gonna happen to them? Left to rot and ruin and become dangerous. Maybe the council should relax their very stringent rules on restoring listed buildings and it might make life a bit easier for the developers/businessmen.
     
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  4. over18and legal

    over18and legal Well-Known Member

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    I don't want a modern building either, but better to have that than a death trap.
     
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  5. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Surely when the council and their partner entered into the agreement they specified which buildings they wanted/demanded to renovate, They cant go back on it. Unless the council lets them.

    I've been in that building its as sound as a pound structurally.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    It's not a death trap, it's just more expensive to renovate than it is to replace.
     
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  7. over18and legal

    over18and legal Well-Known Member

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    If it's crumbling and it's a danger to the public than it's a potential deathtrap in my eyes.
     
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  8. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Been shelved for years now back on. Ye right.

    http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Quay...centre-track/story-21175312-detail/story.html

    Plans to create a huge retail development in Hull city centre could be back on track, the Mail can reveal. Outline planning consent for the Quay West scheme, between Princes Quay and Ferensway, was granted in 2006.

    It was originally envisaged as a retail-led extension to Princes Quay alongside the redevelopment of adjoining land between the shopping centre and Ferensway. The plans included two new department stores, about 60 new shops, a four-star hotel, offices and residential apartments as well as several new streets and public squares.

    At the time, it was hoped it could be open by 2011. However, the subsequent economic downturn and an ownership change at Princes Quay put the brakes on any progress.

    Now though, with planning approval set to expire next year, the partners behind the project have revealed they still intend to bring forward a major retail development at the site.


    The intentions of Hull developer Wykeland and the CIT Group, which owns Princes Quay, are set out in a recent submission to the city council as part of a consultation over future retail planning policies for Hull.

    The submission by planning consultants Indigo on behalf of Wykeland says: “Both our client and CIT Group are fully committed to the redevelopment of land at Quay West.

    Quay West is one of a number of city centre sites that could soon be redeveloped thanks to Hull’s raising profile on the international stage.

    The city has enjoyed unprecedented media exposure in recent months.

    Siemens’ decision to confirm plans for a multi-million-pound offshore wind turbine plant came after Hull won its bid to be the next UK City of Culture in 2017.

    Hull City’s recent appearance in the FA Cup final was also watched by an estimated global audience of half a billion people.

    Now several potential development sites in the city centre are being given a fresh push by Hull City Council, including Quay West.

    Planning committee chairman Councillor Sean Chaytor said: “Our message to developers and investors is that Hull is very much open for business.

    “We want to see new development in areas such as Quay West because, ultimately, it will provide new jobs and help improve the city’s economy as a whole.

    “As a planning authority, we are trying to put the right building blocks in place to encourage development and to get construction projects off the ground.”

    Speaking ahead of the tenth annual Humber Business Week, which starts today, Cllr Chaytor said the city’s current profile had created an opportunity to tidy up several eyesore sites scattered across the city.

    He said: “Hopefully, 2017 will act as a catalyst for new development in much the same way as the Siemens scheme is already having an impact along Hedon Road.

    “We will be doing everything we can as a council to help developers with their schemes.

    “The Quay West development brief is a good example of that because it sets out what the council believes can be achieved on the site. No one likes seeing derelict buildings and fenced-off pieces of land.”

    'Gateway' site has huge potential

    The council's Quay West development brief says the area has all the ingredients to become an "impressive gateway to the city centre".

    While acknowledging major landowners in the area remain committed to a "significant" future retail scheme, it suggests other alternative land uses could still be explored.

    The brief says the major obstacle hindering potential redevelopment is the "back street" nature of the area.

    Wedged between the main entrance to the Princes Quay car park and the rear of Kingston Communications' Telephone House, it is not the most attractive of environments. But leaving things as they are is not an option, according to the brief.

    "The danger for the site is for it be underdeveloped, as demonstrated by the Myton retail park, which contributes nothing positive to the perception of the city centre as a vital and dynamic place."
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    They can't even let the units they've got, never mind 60 new ones, though if they got an anchor tenant like John Lewis it would really boost the place.

    That said, I'd still rather it sank into Princess Dock and disappeared forever.
     
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  10. C'mon ref

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    What puzzles me is that I work in a listed building and the Heritage people forbid any alteration to the external appearance and any restoration must be like for like, wooden sash windows if falling to bits have to be replaced with replica wooden sash windows. And these Heritage people are a law unto themselves so without knowing about the set up of this organisation I wonder why they have not intervened when so many buildings have been left to decay to the point of demolition being the only option, Edwin Davis's comes to mind as does the New York Hotel and as someone mentioned not so long back the theatre down Midland St.
     
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  11. WhittlingStick

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    if only the regulations were as stringent down Whitefriargate .

    one thing is for certain , there are some people sat in an office somewhere making decisions and lining their pockets at the same time - old HDM buildings anyone ?
     
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  12. HHH

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  13. originallambrettaman

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