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OT - A63 improvements approved...

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  1. DMD

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    Strictly speaking, the A63 is already more than fit for purpose. It's Hessle Rd, Anlaby Rd and Spring Bank that aren't.

    The A63 is a trunk road designed to take long haul traffic. A fair amount now is actually local traffic from Hull suburban housing estates like Swanland, Elloughton, South Cave etc that should be using the local roads.
     
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  2. East_Stand_Always

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    Dutch,

    That is a good point. We have really wide suburban routes into the city from the west but they have been butchered and under utilised.

    The route in from the Humber Bridge junction down past Costello is a nice drive to the city but it gets snarled as soon as you get to Analby Rd.

    It would be interesting to see if they decide to rebuilt Earl De Grey elsewhere or just use it as make up land fill. Yes the building is listed but how much value is it really. Could be built in the Streetlife Museum or around Humber St on one of the derelict sites maybe.

    Someone may want it for something.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    What do you propose doing, banning people from Swanland from using the A63?

    Let's be realistic here, access to the city centre needs to be as easy as possible, if it isn't, people will simply go elsewhere.

    For Hull to prosper, it has to improve access to the docks and the industrial areas to the east of the city, along with access to the city centre itself. Including by residents of it's more affluent suburbs(in fact, possibly most importantly by it's most affluent residents) and it needs the waterfront to be linked back to the city centre.

    I've just popped home to watch the local news and watch the interview and points raised in the Commons by Alan Johnson. Though the road improvements have been approved, the proposed land-bridge has not been, it's still up for review(it's proposed to run from the grass next to Ask, to the grass in front of the Spurn Lightship). As Johnson said, without the land-bridge, only half the job is sorted and considering the bridge will cost £2-3m, as part of a £160m development, it would be ridiculous not to do it.

    There's an opportunity here to make a massive difference to the access to the city and to improve access to the waterfront, I desperately hope it all comes to fruition.
     
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  4. DMD

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    If you check back, a massive part of why it gets so far and then stops links directly to the needs of ABP, the Marina was succesful in its way until plod decided to kill it. The land bridge etc is a bit of a more recent "priority".

    As for those from the outlyting estates, it's not my argument, it's one the HA have offered as they're local traffic and therefore a local authority problem. If they used local roads, there'd be plenty of space for visitors to use the trunk road. It won't be too long after these changes that the extra capacity encourages more cars and we're back to square one, wondering why we're a one road City.


    I'd have the parasites from those estates paying extra to use Hull's services instead of just popping in, using resources and disapearing.
     
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    I think the major problem is that it's all one road. People that come to Hull from South Cave (where I live) use the same roads that drivers from Liverpool and Dundee do. The access to the Docks and freight areas needs improving, as does the traffic flow on Castle Street and the road that the park and ride takes that runs up to the flyover on match days (can take up to 30 mins to get off that road when it's busy hence my investing in a car parking pass this year)
     
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  6. Chilton's Hundreds

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    Small minded attitude that is one of the reasons Hull has been held back for decades.

    If people spend money in Hull it doesn't matter whether they're from Shanghai or Swanland.
     
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  7. DMD

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    I didn't say they spent money. :emoticon-0111-blush I was referring to those I know personally that do what I put. That's not small minded, that's pointing out a drain on resources.
     
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    OK I'll let you off :smile:

    So what makes them jump in their 4x4 automatics, drive down their 40yard blocked paved drives and travel to Hull and back without spending anything?
     
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    This is the proposed land bridge:

    please log in to view this image
     
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  10. DMD

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    Amongst many other things (and I really can't be arsed to list them), the free events laid on by Hull City Council, such as those for children in the parks in Summer.
     
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    I think the final design for the land bridge is yet to be decided isn't it?
     
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  12. Chilton's Hundreds

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    Yep that's the one I've seen before.

    Disabled access is naff - there should be landings half-way like the Anlaby Rd flyover, and then the walkway can turn back
    in the opposite direction.
     
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    I don't anyone who's taken their kids to a free Hull City Council event in a park.

    Every time my kids go to Hull, it costs me for cinema tickets and a meal at Ask.
     
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    David Burns ‏@bbcburnsy
    Could be one of most significant days in history of Hull and Humber; A63 improvements;windpower strike prices and £102m for @HumberLEP.

    He's not wrong, £160m to improve transport links, strike prices confirmed(which is what Siemens were waiting for ahead of confirming their investment) and €102.4m for the Humber Local Enterprise Partnership.
     
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    This scheme if its in line with the sketch someone shown is carried out it doesn't end up with a cut and cover over the full length of Castle Street and will therefore mean the Princes Quay side of the city centre does not link across at current ground level to the Marina side.

    Seems a lot of cash just to get rid of the Mytongate gyratory.

    Sorry missed recent posts about the land bridge - goes without saying this is vital for the city centre to 'flow' (no pun intended) into the marina side without a proper cut and cover option.
     
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  16. Chilton's Hundreds

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    You mean the ones that have helpers to look after the kids so their Mum's can go and shop and have lunch in town with their mates ?
     
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  17. DMD

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    If you went to the freebies, you'd meet loads. Events like the Freedom Festival also draw people in from the estates, but they tend not to spend.
     
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  18. DMD

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    Nope.
     
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    How do you go to the Freedom Festival without spending, I thought it was just a big piss up?
     
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  20. DMD

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    They take their own champagne and caviar. <ok>
     
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