Paolo Sousa continued Martinez work, lasting less than a year. There is absolutely no doubt the legacy belonged to Martinez. The 'rebuilding' of Moyes squad is already underway, Lukaku & Barry have been massive, Martinez signed them, he also propelled Brkley into the team, Moyes had him out on loan. I'm gonna stick with my view, and the one universally held by people in the game, that Martinez is one of the best young gaffers in Europe, and will have a huge future.
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Sousa and Rogers built the teams that got Swansea promotion though and advanced Swansea in into the top flight. Laudrup did build on that last season but maybe he is being found out a bit this season when the difficult questions have been asked. Moyes built Everton into a regular top 6 or 7 club. Lets see where Martinez takes that foundation over the next 2 years. IMO it will be downwards not upwards.
As I say, time will tell, Moyes was amazing, yet Martinez, the 'fraud' matching him is not good enough? Baffling logic, in fact, no logic whatsoever.
I repeat, yet again, he hasn't actually matched anything with 16 games still to go and to say he has done so is not exactly the most logical stance in the world either really? If he matches, or beats Moyes record and wins a trophy (which Moyes couldn't do in 10 years) over the next few seasons (not one season with essentially Moyes squad and hard work already done) then he can be hailed as a success. My prediction though is when he really has to start rebuilding Moyes squad, he will fail spectacularly. He chose Everton because he knew he would be able to hide his lack of ability for a couple of seasons under a cracking squad and team. Time will tell whose logic holds up though I guess.
With all this talk of logic being bandied about, I thought I had come across an old Star Trek script!
Trophies mean a lot.. After all a club that wins trophies is a successful club. Success means bigger popularity, bigger attraction to get players, bigger attraction for fans. Top 4 is an ambition for 5-6 teams in the league, the other 14 would love to win a trophy, otherwise what's the point in being a football club? Yes it's important to stay in the premier league, but if you can do that, of course a club would want to win a cup, it boosts the club in many ways, including recognition of being a good/successful club.
10 years with no trophy for Moyes had a lot of people saying he hadn't been that successful either though? It all depends which perspective you take. We are never going to agree on Martinez mate. You rate him highly, I most definitely don't. Let's leave it at that.
Of course it's all about opinions, my opinion was based on what we actually saw happening on the pitch, all the good team work ruined by individual schoolboy errors. Your's is based on an irrational dislike of an individual.
I don't do irrational, so you're wrong again there. I have an opinion, that PDC didn't have a clue about man management. My opinion also stretches to thinking that MoN would have got enough points to keep us up. I am pleased we now have Gus....but in MY OPINION...we should never have sacked MoN
John O'Shea past it years ago,had the displeasure going to Poland and saw him in the flesh and Trap still picking him and MON as well,oh dear.But in fairness he has put in some decent performances for ewes and you will stay up.
