OSC Poll Result

[Fez]

Fez, yet again you do read into a post what you like.

Examples:
Where did I say that the OSC could not take part or support campaigns that affect the sport?
Show me one single post where I supported the name change to Hull Tigers. I have never "sat on the fence" as far as losing "City" from the playing name.

The OSC only represents it membership it can only be representative of its members and so it has limited representation. Trust and protest groups can canvas opinion from the wider supporter base and take part or support campaigns that affect the sport. There is a widely accepted difference in the roles of supporters clubs and supporters trusts.
As for social intent, I am surprised that you are not aware of the sub group that HCST formed in order to improve the match day atmosphere at the KC or the social events that it puts on. I am surprised that no one has listened when you have stated that there should be no contact with the club, yet HCST board members attend not only the FWG but SAG as well.

TOM, if you are trying to wriggle out of what you have clearly said, then good for you, but we can all read what we see and if you meant something different then you should explain it clearly.
You still don't seem to understand what sitting on the fence is, do you. Many of us have remarked on it, you can be as evasive as you wish, but it's a bit late now to be in denial of being on the fence. (I'll give you a clue; you said that you would rather it stay the same, but you also said you could understand why he wanted it and that it would not change your support of Allam, the club, or his business plans. I really can't be arsed to trawl back as we all saw it and remarked on it. You have a selective memory.

You never answer anything, you simply keep muddying the waters. I have read what you write; the problem is you keep changing your position. Kempton summed it up very well.

 

[The Omega Man]

"Fez, I make a clear difference between the roles of the OSC and HCST. I personally look at the OSC as a social body, that does have some representative role, but that as it is bound to the club, that representation would always be limited. It was not a case of me saying that I was right. I listened to what was said and accepted a different point of view during a normal conversation over a pint. I expressed concerns and was satisfied by the response."

"The OSC only represents it membership it can only be representative of its members and so it has limited representation. Trust and protest groups can canvas opinion from the wider supporter base and take part or support campaigns that affect the sport. There is a widely accepted difference in the roles of supporters clubs and supporters trusts."

"Now that is one mixed up load of twaddle. Any organisation can canvass support or opinion if it has the will to do so; it might even use such mechanisms to increase its membership, wouldn't that be original - maybe not. Can you show me anywhere ( if you do if it be the first time you have ever returned with anything to support your claims) where it says a OSC cannot take part in or support campaigns that effect the sport?"

Fez, where did I say that the OSC could not take part or support campaigns that affect the sport?

From the web site of HCOSC

What is the HCOSC?
Hull City Official Supporters Club is the only supporters’ group officially recognised by Hull City AFC. This means our members have access to benefits in partnership with the football club. A list of the benefits is available on the ‘Membership’ section of the website.



What is the Purpose of the HCOSC?


We feel there has been some confusion over recent months and years over the exact purpose of the HCOSC and where we fit into the picture of Hull City fans and fans groups. Basically the HCOSC is a membership club. The aim is to give fans the opportunity to get closer to the football club through our events. We are not a campaign group and unlike other supporters’ groups we aren’t in a position to have strong views on any particular issues surrounding Hull City, although we have represented our membership through polls in the past when specifically requested, such as in our submission to the Football Association in relation to the club’s plans to change its name. Generally, our official status means that we are aligned with the club and almost a part of it. Like any official supporters’ club, we must be wholly supportive of our football club. Our one key stance is to be pro Hull and pro Hull City.