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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Cest Advocaat, Oct 19, 2013.

  1. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    What is wrong with what I am saying??
     
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  2. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    flanders we will never agree about aj , we are both fans its a difference of opinion ,i think im right and you likewise ,bad day again for us which dont help does it . chow for now.
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    We need a period of gradual logical change, not more kneejerking.

    If playing a new 11 fails, in the first couple of games, where do you go?

    Poyert needs to be given what he was promised........ time.

    Just as PDC was promised until he was hounded out by the 'comfort squad' that runs SAFC.
     
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  4. Uber_Hoop

    Uber_Hoop Well-Known Member

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    QPR fan in peace.

    I'm finding myself looking out for your scores this season, as you look to be having the sort of season that we had to endure last time out. It must be a miserable time for you guys and I can know how you must be feeling (although the situation is not altogether the same).

    I hope Poyet turns it around for you. North-East supporters are second to none in their loyalty to their team.
     
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  5. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    as usual wise words,makes you think if he wasnt hounded what would it have turned out after a year after the comfort squad were gone
     
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  6. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    but we haven't played all our new layers why did we get them there were bought to improve a poor performing team last year .we now have the same players playing as last year
     
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  7. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's hard to make sense now that a manager allowed to bring in over a dozen players was hounded out.

    I'd imagine Poyet will bring in the new players when he's give the current team a chance.

    The first he should drop is O'Shea, imo, because he detracts from the team with his continual pointing & shouting.

    I never liked him in a Sunderland shirt and can't see that changing.
     
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  8. Brian Storm

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    Agree mate but Jack has done nothing to be dropped today nevermind in the future.
     
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  9. Vincemac

    Vincemac Well-Known Member

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    Yeh I think for us to move on oshea has to go I feel he is to much influence in the other team members.we can't do any worse than give our new players a chance
     
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  10. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    You should give the bloke a break. He said Johnson was an England international and he is. He's represented his county and his footballing career is not over. He never said he was good enough now or in the near future, you implied that and you put words in his mouth. Just let it go fella.
     
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  11. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Agree about Colback, way too early to dump Altidore and Johnson needs to be kicked until he plays as he should.
     
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  12. Reggie the Cheddar

    Reggie the Cheddar Well-Known Member

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    The old guard let us down badly today im with cest in thinking the young lads deserve a chance now as theh cant do any worse than the so called experienced pros

    i didnt turn on the players like most of you did when PDC was sacked mainley because he was a nutter but theres no excuse today change is needed on the pitch nowhere else!
     
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  13. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Well Cest has picked 9 of my starting 11 there (which I posted before today regarding a starting 11 to settle with without future wholesale changes. Id bring in Johnson for Karlson and Colback for Cabral from his team.

    Westwood
    Celustka---Diakité---Roberge---Dossena
    Cats----Colback
    Ki
    AJ---------------Giac
    Fletch​

    I think that team will keep us up and it's got 4 british players in anarl
     
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  14. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Hurrah some of you are finally coming round to realising that oshea, vaughan seb, gards and a few others should be kicked out of the club. pay their contracts out and kick the f*ckers out of our club.
    Play the under 21s play PDCs signings but get rid of the useless c*nts who got rid of the last few managers
     
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  15. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    No offence Flanders but im with Stu here. Yes Johnson once looked like a quality player, he even got picked for England as a bit part player for City.
    Its been over a year now since
    He signed for us, and how many good games has he played?? Im sorry but for me its bye bye Adam, thanks
    But no thanks!
     
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  16. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    I cant see the old guard pulling us out of this though which is why I want a few of the new faces in to give them a try. PDC was a total disaster btw and in no way would he have improved us short, medium or long term imo. He was a terrible appointment form the start however I do not disagree that the core of players that have now sacked 3 previous manager should be got rid of as soon as possible.

    That said, I would rather now see the fruits of di Fantis and Angelonis summer endeavours given a chance in the likes of Karlsson, Ba, Cabral, Diakite, Dossena and the likes have a run in the team. At least it would be refreshing to see and stop the animosity I feel towards many of the current cant be dropped load of ****e.
     
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  17. Cest Advocaat

    Cest Advocaat Well-Known Member

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    Colback has been given a starting place all season but refuses to sign a new contract, so its for that reason alone I would drop him. We need totally committed players who believe they have a real future here playing and fighting, not ones with an eye on running off in the summer or even January.
     
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  18. Reggie the Cheddar

    Reggie the Cheddar Well-Known Member

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    YES THIS TOTALLY!!

    i like jack but hes dicking us over with this contract situation
     
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  19. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    That lad shows more commitment on the pitch then most of that rable put together. Tell me a bit about Jacks contract offer then Cest? You must know the ins and outs of the contract stipulations that's been offered such as signing fee, wages, appearance fees, bonuses, contract length, clauses? Otherwise surely you wouldn't drop a player for refusal to sign a contract without such important information with which to make such a decision? Do you know for sure the reason he hasn't signed a new contract? Or just what you've read in the media?

    Maybe he see's piss takers getting 35k a week and think he's deserving of more with his committed hard working performances. I know I would.
     
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  20. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

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    wrong ,re read the posts ,and by the way the opinion olive branch was held out we will not agree about aj ,thats it ,as i said we are all fans with opinions ,but im sure with the same passion
     
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