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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by ElTigre, Dec 30, 2014.

  1. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Slavery was a big thing in the history of a lot of places going back to the beginning of time. Your point is?
     
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  2. Quill

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    That just because things are a big part of a country's history, it doesn't mean they can't be changed.
     
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  3. C'mon ref

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    But I asked where I specifically blame violent films/games instead of pointing out that throughout America's history guns have loomed large so shocking things have happend because of the widespread use of guns so it should be of no surprise, as for slavery where did that come into the equasion?
     
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  4. Quill

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    You insinuated it by bringing up movies/games in the first place. You suggested we shouldn't be surprised that this much violence happens because of the violent films that people see - which is a ridiculous idea, as 99.9% of people who see a violent film don't feel the urge to go round a school and start shooting.

    The reason things like this happen is a combination of mental heath issues, upbringing and the ease of access to weaponry.

    I brought up slavery as you said that guns have been a big part of the USA's history, and therefore is 'never going to change'. Slavery was also a big part of the USA's history, like guns, and was changed.

    It's called an amendment for a reason.
     
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  5. C'mon ref

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    Insinuate? Really? Well that's your interpritation not mine I reiterate I have not blamed films/games on what happends but in a country that has guns built in to its history, then some bad stuff has happend throughout that history not as a result of violent films/games but the films have reflected part of that history, cowboys and indians etc of many years ago and the many films/TV series since.
     
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  6. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    You've dug yourself a hole here and it's getting deeper.
     
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  7. Quill

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    What are you on about here then?

    Stop digging and go watch the Jim Jefferies video on page 7. It might enlighten you.
     
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  8. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    Slavery was abolished 150 years ago yet the social, racial and economical repercussions are still felt today.

    Abolish guns now and you're only changing a law, you're not solving a problem. Sure its a step in the right direction but a small one at that.
     
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  9. Quill

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    I never said abolishing guns would have an instant impact. I would expect it to take quite a few years. But it would be a massive step.

    Like I said, it's called an amendment for a reason.
     
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  10. ElTigre

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    Do you think if someone likes watching violent films that this means they like violence?
     
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  11. Des Head

    Des Head Well-Known Member

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    Right there. You're linking them in the very post you've made asking about another post where you've linked them.
     
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  12. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    Apparently so.

    I must be a sociopath.
     
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  13. originallambrettaman

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    This made me smile, it's an American tourists view of England, which went viral...

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  14. ElTigre

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    How did "cheers" become so widespread as a way of saying goodbye, or for saying thanks? When did it creep in?
     
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  15. Spook

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    Jim Jefferies offers a rational and sane argument on this.

    I admit, I like guns. I've fired real ones and air guns before and it's fun. The issue here is that owning guns in the US is a right, when it should be a privilege. A privilege in the sense that you have to jump through hoops to pass background checks and get a license to own one. Nobody has a right to drive a car; you have to have lessons, pass your test and eventually get your license.
     
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  16. Chilton's Hundreds

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    US politics is absurd. The Yanks have an inherent distrust of authority which is why we see a President from one party but The House controlled by the other party.
    I suppose it's a safeguard in one respect but it can hinder genuine reform.

    If dead school/college kids isn't enough to stir their national conscience I don't know what is.

    Expect to hear of another mass shooting any day now.

    Rinse and repeat.
     
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  17. Tuckin

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    Next thing you know they'll be claiming that people who watch porn like sex.
     
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    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    When I saw Quill mention Jim Jefferies I thought what has a great old heavyweight boxing champion got to do,with this.
     
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  19. Barchullona

    Barchullona Well-Known Member

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    Or epeople watch porn because they aren't getting enough sex. A bit like Miff posting topless pictures whilst he looked forward to one day encountering a real woman.
     
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  20. Spook

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