One to wake up to. remember any of this folks?

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The population growth is just as much, people living longer than 40-80 years ago, than it is ppl having big families, a lot of British families had 11-12 kids in the 40`s-60`s, now thats dropped drastically (you still get the odd 1 or 2) but we still have 10 million + more people living in the UK than back then.

As for power, well we are going to have to do something, oil wont last forever, I dont think Wind is the answer, OK for smaller towns, but big cities have no chance, there is a type of algea that i seen on the TV that can produce lots of power (this was about 5 years ago though so memory is hazy) so that may be the way to go in the future.

http://inhabitat.com/power-your-car-with-algae-algae-biocrude-by-livefuels/

Iremember a documentary a few years ago saying that the technology to run cars on by products made from chicken **** had been in place for years but the oil companies had put the frightners on the guys & then paid them to keep shtum.
 
Bloody hell shameless. :p


1/ The only eggs we usually found were Starlings and Spuggies. (Trust me they survived.)

2/ Which was changed with improvement in scientific knowledge. (Lets not get into manure poisoning of waterways.)

3/ Wealth is still based on the exploitation of other countries and our own people.

4/ Again sorted with medical advancement, may as well have added the Black Death. We do have that nice new disease AIDS for future historians to call us on, along with lots of others.

5/ And this has actually changed?

6/ They hadn't invented solar cells then!


The olden days may have not been a green paradise!
But our plastic throw away society is much worse for waste now!
And the waste is hard to get rid of.

I won't go through your counter-counter claim 1 by 1 - suffice to say some of it is valid.

We always look back upon the past through nostalgic rose-tinted spectacles - it was no ****ing utopia.
 
Going back to the original post, I think that there are arguments to support both sides of the divide here...Yes, the average man/woman/child/ consumed far less energy in the past than today, however, energy production was far dirtier than in the past...
In my opinion there is only two ways we can prevent the global catastrophe's that will undoubtedly occur if we carry on producing global warming gasses at our present rate...Firstly, the world has got to get away from relying on fossil fuel energy and convert to for example solar, wind and in the short term nuclear energy. Secondly, and in my opinion most importantly, the world's population needs to be reduced, and to achieve this we need to educate certain cultures on the merits of birth control and also change the breed at all costs attitude that certain religions preach to their followers..
...<laugh> <laugh> <laugh>. In my opinion...you’re like a recently disinfected ****-house, you’re clean round the ****ing bend...:emoticon-0181-fubar
 
I didnt expect the degree of response that this thread has brought, and the sensible comments that have been made, and strangely enough no swearwords, now how good is that?

Thanks Bill for posting it. I have cut and pasted the original and emailed it to some of my friends as it brought back a lot of good memories of my life growing up, although also some that were not so good.

I remember the open fire and the bleazer too. Can you imagine teaching a 10 year old these days how to light a fire. Social services would be round in a flash! I used to love toast made over the glowing coals of a fire. Was probably carcinogenic with all the coal tar cos it tasted sort of smoky, but with loads of butter it tasted heavenly when you came home from school and were starving. But who would go back to houses with no central heating? I also remember the frost on the bedroom windows on the INSIDE and how bloody cold it was to get washed and dressed. I still hate cold rooms first thing in the morning!
 
I didnt expect the degree of response that this thread has brought, and the sensible comments that have been made, and strangely enough no swearwords, now how good is that?

Thought it was too good to be true, the swearing bit, very next response,,,,,,,,,,,,bang,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,never mind eh? I by the way swear worse than any trooper, as if you didnt know, but thought it strange that no swearing appeared, until the next response, I actually thought we were going back to a time when that didnt happen, when bugger was a bad word. when you were brought swiftly back to reality by your mother calling you by your full christian name, and your sunday best clobber, went with your naughty boy christian name, I would give everything I have to see my grandmother again, as all of you would like to see your special one. never going to happen in this life I know, but still hear the Word, spoken as a warning " WILLIAM" That meant I was in the poopie, But how Id like to hear that voice again. And whatever trouble I was in I would savour it. every moment.
 
In my day, we didn't have fancy health-food restaurants. Every day we ate lots of easily recognizable animal parts, along with potatoes.

Ps: Kids today think the world revolves around them. In my day, the sun revolved around the world <doh>
 
Back then, people took the tram or a bus

Back then, the tram or bus would've cost pennies (even by trodays standards)

If I want to get to work using the bus it'd cost me about a tenner for the return journey
To bring the car the journey costs me less than £2 each way - even when you add on insurance, car tax etc it's still cheaper to bring the car...

The country nowadays has no idea about being green - although we also had no idea when we were younger - even though all of the stuff Bill said is true - there were a lot of bad things on the other end of the see saw which meant we were probably as bad then as we are now!!!