One of the biggest EVER protests planned

What if Newcastle thrash Hull "You will look a bit of a fool " I am expecting to see Albert reintroduce the WARM FEELING thread on Saturday

 

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Although the protest is aimed at Pardew some of the negativity will wash over the players. The last thing we want is for the team to think that the fans are on their backs on saturday. I dont care about Pardew, I just want my team to win. The players confidence is shot, surely we need to be behind them for 90 minutes cos when the fans are on form St James park is rocking and the players get a lift. I understand the reasons behind the protests and what they are trying to acheive, fans willing to take a couple of defeats if it will get rid of Pardew. Ashley will only get rid if and when he decides it is right to do so, he will not take into account the fans opinions. After a couple of defeats we will be in deep trouble with no manager and with very few decent new managers to pick from to replace him. Then that new manager has to have time to build up the teams confidence again and get them playing his style. That could take months, By that time it may be far to late and we will be favourites for relegation, subjecting the new guy to all the pressure and criticism that comes with that journey. The bottom line is I do not want Newcastle Utd to be relegated and if this protest backfires it may be match that lights the blue touchpaper of implosion.

 

you clearly have been viewing the forum through the purple haze again fella...

 

A point well made and it's certainly split the support in terms of viewpoint.
Some would argue that a mass protest of this kind will be the catalyst for change though.
Whatever the route.. it seems that the vast majority of fans want Pardew out as soon as possible.

 

It the classic, " stuck between a rock and a hard place", or "damned if you do and damned if you dont".

There will be no winners on Saturday between Pardew, Ashley and the fans. I only hope the team wins even though I know it may prolong the life of Pardew

 

'Give pardew a fair chance'

Jesus titty ****ing christ!

 

The split is something like 90/10 now. It's time to rid the club of the negativity that is Pardew hanging around. Leave it any longer and it may be too late.

 

The mob need a sacrifice. We must flow with the ice cold tide of hatred on this one. We must prepare for our new manager now and I would like to welcome our new overlord Steve of Cotterhill in our inevitable relegation this season.

 

You are mistaken, sir. Cotters is behind Lord Curbishley and Bonnie Prince Mackay, surely.

 

Give Pardew a chance????? How in the hell can anyone come out with that?????? He is ****. He has had 3 games too many already.

 

Bloody hell! Some of the possible replacements I wouldn't like to ponder on.

 

I reckon they'd be wrong then. This is not a good squad. A poor manager can only make this worse of course, but I'm not kidding myself. We have bought poorly.

People are entitled to protest. I don't agree with it as it harms the team but each to their own.

 

How about Steve McClaren and Rene Meulensteen as coach? Didnt they coach together for Fergie at Man Utd.? Not everyones cup of tea I admit but what the hell, the best of a bad bunch possibly. No decent manager in his right mind will come here. I wouldnt be surprised to see Ashley get Kinnear back in as an emergency stop-gap manager short term.

 

Not at all cynical. I'm with you about this lot. The way they proudly claim the Hatem Ben Arfa banner as theirs tells me all I need to know. They are ****wits.

 

I don't disagree with fans voicing their opinion with regard to the team and manager, what I find distasteful is the blind hatred and quite frankly vile abuse that has been posted on various forums and in general online, the sackpardew.com website is orchestrating this and contributing to ramping up this hatred and abuse in a way. It's a generalisation but yes most fans want a change, I doubt that they really support the extreme hatred element but for fear of abuse themselves don't speak out, this is often the case, my other consideration is that Pardew is a football manager, he didn't kill someone, he didn't abuse children and he didn't set fire to a dogs home, he went to work that's all.

 

Similarly he isn't universally hated, though, is he? He's derided by most other footballing communities, but only "hated" by the one he's directly affecting. You're talking about people with not a lot of coin paying to be handed down the worst kind of football, and by a chap who has never done anything to endear himself to the fan. He's on an infinitely bigger wage than they are and in a far more privileged position than they are. It's not just "a job", it's a very special job that hundreds upon thousands of people would love to have and never will. What you are bending towards is the acceptance of football as a capitalist pursuit. There's been a lot of talk from fans here, in Milton Keynes, in Blackburn, in Hull about how the fans are utterly disregarded, yet it is they who prop it all up, who make it something, or even anything.

If he'd killed someone, there'd be universal hatred, legal repercussions and so on. For murdering a football club, he and Ashley are actually GIVEN money! Surely the sense of injustice is clear? On this last point, I was talking to a friend the other day and said "you know, in general it costs an absolute fortune to advertise. The cost for putting out an advert that hits 1 billion viewers would be astronomical. Mike Ashley gets PAID £60m a year by television to have his company broadcast to that many people. And some of us wonder when he's going to sell up...."

 

Indeed. At times like this, its when a certain element of our support show their true colours. Its one thing sticking your tongue firmly in your cheek and making crazy postings which everyone can see is designed to amuse or provoke. However some are quite literally talking about genuine hate and have lost all perspective on what we are talking about. The abuse and protestations about what people would like to do to him is vile. It brigns shame on the whole support, I'm embarrassed for them, but embarrassed they are associated with our club. All this "we want a peaceful protest" is all well and good. However some of the very same people signing up and frequenting their campaign site are the ones behaving like brainless neanderthals.

 

I am with you on the abuse side of things, and don't mind sticking my head above the parapet to say so. I'm not talking about people venting about how ****e they think he is, or how ****e his tactics are, or even how they hate how far up Ashley's arse they think he is - in other words, the vast majority of stuff on here. I'm not even talking about the likes of BRS's colourful descriptions of sexual depravity that he sees going on in the boardroom - they are not in any way threatening or sinister. The bits I don't agree with, like above, are when it spills over to vile personal abuse and threats. It reflects very badly on the club. It doesn't show passion when it gets that bad - it shows a lack of brains and a lack of respect for another human being, no matter how much you dislike him. At some point, someone is going to take it a step too far and cross a line that can't be stepped back over.

The bit that worries me most about this campaign though, and it is purely a gut feeling, is that I think the fans might be being manipulated by someone or some people with a hidden agenda. The anonymity worries me. I think the Chronicle are far more involved than they let on, but I don't think they are in charge. I think they are being used. I just have a horrible feeling that behind this is someone who sees an opportunity to destabilise the club for their own personal gain. I think the fans signing up have a genuine desire to see Pardew forced out of the club. I think those at the top are being a bit more devious than that. It would not shock me to find out that the people orchestrating this could well have an Ashley-type figure behind them who wants to put in a bid for the club, or someone who wants to profit in some way. It could well be a good thing to get rid of Ashley along with Pardew, but if its by someone who begins their association with the club by using and manipulating the fans then its no improvement in my book.

This could of course be nothing more than paranoid conspiracy theory madness. Like I said, its just my gut reaction. I don't like the way that anonymous people are orchestrating and manipulating us though. When that potential idiot above does overstep the line he will find the manipulation suddenly stops and his anonymous 'friends' will be nowhere in sight. We have had far too many hidden agendas and manipulation at this club for anyone to think that anonymity is a good idea.

If they are genuine they should stand up for what they believe in, in full public sight, and let us choose to get behind them or not.

 

I think the annonymity is a good thing. I also don't think fans are being manipulated by those running the website, by all accounts they've contact local businesses for support in advertising their campaign and have also fully updated the the club on what to expect for the game this weekend. It seems pretty organised and well thought out IMO.

As for those over stepping the mark with vile remarks etc, Pardew & Co won't even see half of it and when you've got Carver calling people out to meet him at the training ground then quite frankly Pardew and his cronies are bringing it upon themselves. You also have to ask yourself why has it come to such threats/remarks. It's because Pardew has literally pushed some to their limit (and beyond) with his excuses, his bigging up of Ashley, his lies. I mean pre season he was saying champions league is the aim and now he's saying he needs 10 games etc to bed everyone in. I think the international break excuse was just laughable, we probably have the fewest internationals in the league.

I also think those claiming that this won't do anything, that it's a waste of time and money etc as just taking the easy option to not back the campaign. It's all too easy to turn up to the game, cheer the lads on and complain afterwards. Pardew needs to be doubting himself and his ability to lead this club if he's to walk, he's not going to be doing that if everyone turns up on Saturday and pretends everything is rosy. It may not work, he probably won't walk and Ashley probably won't sack him but which manager wants 50 odd thousand calling for his head every other week. It'll get a lot a national media coverage and for every week it goes on Pardew's reputation will take more of it hit, each week it'll become harder for him to remain in his job and eventually he'll crack just like any normal person would.

People won't agree but if losing on Saturday means he's out of a job then I want us to lose. It's about what's best for the long term interests of the club and IMO the best thing is for Pardew to go, that's more important than 3 points this Saturday for me.