Nothing like making stuff up to try and make a point is there moderator? I can do it too... you're probably one of the same Spurs fans that thought they were the new dominant power in North London
What makes me laugh even more is they relied on a poor bit of defending and an atrocious error to beat us when we were well below par. A "dominant" performance wouldn't require gifts from the opposition. Definitely the better side and deserving of the win but dominant... No way.
I didn't make anything up. I think most would accept the majority of Arsenal fans thought they were playing football the "right way" when you were knocking it around fairly aimlessly(not too dissimilar to us under AVB), you're welcome to deny that you did though. Personally I didn't ever say that about Spurs
You've gone from suggesting it was playing the 'best' football to now just it being football 'the right way'... want to change it anymore?
Stating you saw a dominant performance staggered me. If that was dominant then I'm surprised you are where you are in the league hence my constant referrals back to it. The fact that YV just changed the wording on a separate sentence which still technically meant the same as his previous was something petty to pick up on.
Using the term 'dominant' staggered you? We started without our best keeper, best centre back, best left back, two best midfielders and best striker and still won the game as easy as anything. You could argue you had some of your best players out but do Spurs even know who their best players are the moment? At no point did we look in danger. Dominant. You think 'playing football the right way' is the same as playing the 'best football'?? I can already tell this exchange is going to go nowhere.
We had our two best centre backs, two best centre mids and 1st choice left winger out among two other attacking mids and a striker. At no point looked in danger? Ade misfiring a volley, Soldado smashing wide... You scored via a defensive muck up and a lack of concentration from Rose... Better, not dominant. Dominant is what City and Pool were against us. The wording was different but the intent of the post was still getting at the same point. I don't see how you can't see that.
Liverpool and City were dominant due to your own ineptitude under AVB which has been partially addressed with Sherwood allowing a bit more freedom (which ultimately backfired against us but still made your players clearly more comfortable). Two best centre backs? I've seen people claiming Chiriches is as good a centre back as you've got. Who are you claiming are these two who are head and shoulders above everyone else? Hopefully you're not referring to Kaboul and Vertonghen... Two best centre mids?... agreed, though Dembele plays as well against us as any of your other centre mids ever had. Beneteleb though I'll agree was rubbish. 1st choice left winger... er...? Townsend?! Two other attacking mids? I'm sure Holtby and Lamela would have made a world of difference. and a striker? Defoe??? Hmm... I agreed that you could argue you had some of your best players out. But my other point stands... are the players you were missing that much better than the ones you had on the pitch? You have lots of equally good players but not many great or poor ones. Ozil and Ramsey are clearly currently our most productive midfielders by far in terms of goals and assists. Giroud is our only striker who can do anything although Walcott did a good job up front. Quite how you can claim Cazorla's goal was anything other than a great move by us is odd. I could go back to every goal we've conceded this year and say it was somehow our own fault and therefore the other team was lucky, but that's football. Anyway you're a Spurs fan so you can have that opinion if you want. Also, feel free to keep clinging to the 'better not dominant' mantra I find it particularly amusing that you deem Soldado smashing a shot wide as a 'chance'.
Stats like these can be very misleading SoS: have a look at these Match 1 15 to 13 shots, 10 to 5 on target, 4 to 7 corners, 47 to 53 possession Match 2 22 to 12 shots, 7 to 6 on target, 8 to 8 corners, 52 to 48 possession Want to guess what the results were?
it was a comfortable win for Arsenal. but we weren't dominated as a team, it was more a case that we struggled to impose our own game because we're still adapting to new management and in the end Arsenal had a piece of quality and a lucky goal. Comfortable win but no one walked away from spurs thinking we was dominated, more disappointment that we never showed up.
PowerSpurs I'm intrigued to know how Arsenal could have been relegated in 1995 if only one result changed. Are you just talking about Palace v Arsenal and the potential result of 7-0 to Palace which is the only result which would have seen them finish above us? Another good fact... Luis Suarez has scored as many goals in his 15 premier league appearances this season as the whole Derby team in the entire of the 07/08 season.
IMO, both Kaboul, especially and Vertonghen are to class cb's. Kaboul, when fully fit ( if he's ever fully fit again!) is one of the best in the premiership. Dawson has his qualities, but he 's completely ****ed when opposition players run him. Holtby, I don 't think has been given a proper chance yet. It seems to me that you don't get called into the full German squad unless you have something going for you.
They had a really tough start, but it was a truly dreadful campaign. Sherwood's nearly picked up nearly as many points in 4 games as they managed in 38.
Agreed AVB was a hindrance on our side but deep down, a team of our quality should not be losing by 5 and 6 goals to nil respectively, especially the 5 at home to Pool. They were dominant performances from two teams in good form. Yes I'm referring to Kaboul and Vertonghen. Kaboul being our best and Vertonghen not far behind, just unfortunately we've had to make do without Kaboul for the best part of 18 months now bar a few sporadic appearances this season. Chiriches has been arguably our best signing due to the fact he's settled well but our best CB? I'm not sure who you've heard that from as I don't know any Spurs fan that has said that, he's nowhere near Vertonghen or Kaboul's level. Dawson has completely gone off the boil this season, we've always known he was a slow player but my Nan who's had two hip replacements could beat him in a race now. As much as I love Daws, he's well passed his prime and so having him in at CB is often becoming a liability now, especially against top sides like yourself. Dembele is a great player but it doesn't take away the fact our best 2 CM's were out. Had we had Sandro playing, there's a good chance your midfield wouldn't have got through as many times as they did. Paulinho is a work horse and the biggest goal threat from all CM's, so I'd say they would've made a difference. Yes Townsend established himself this season as first choice, similar to how Ramsay, who as of up to last season was a player Arsenal fans had probably forgot, is now seen by many as arguably your best player. Eriksen is performing well on the left but he's not a winger like Townsend who'll cause a FB to panic due to his pace. Stick Eriksen in the centre or behind the striker and you'll see a different player. The other two AM's were Gylfi and Holtby, I'd completely forgot about Lamela to be honest, not first teamers but they would've been ideal to use off the bench, especially as most of the players that played you had played most of our games over the xmas period, not that fatigue is an excuse but you were able to bring the likes of Ozil, Mertseacker and Flamini on, we only had Capoue and Chadli as 1st team squad players to choose from. Again, like the two AM's having Defoe available off the bench is better than Jon 'can't hit a barndoor' Obika and Harry Kane who'd only just returned from injury against Utd. Cazorla's finish was superb and is a player I rate immensely but he should have never received that through ball. Dawson and Chiriches moved way too close together when they didn't need too resulting in Walker leaving Cazorla completely open and unmarked as he came to cover the two CB's. I'll cling to the better, not dominant mantra while you still cling to the dominant. You were worthy winners and I have no complaints about the result but that was in no way a dominant performance, quite how you say so to me suggests a clear Arsenal bias. So firing wide isn't a chance? Had it been a few inches to the right it would've likely ended up in the back of the net, especially as you had Fabianski in goal.
