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  1. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    HOME GAMES. Everything is a unfair comparison, that's why I keep saying to ignore 2012.

    but 26 is definitely bigger than 20, therefore they get more money now than then. Inflation doesn't come into it.
    That's about how far the money goes, not how much they get.

    The question wasn't a comparison between now and 2012. It was a question about how much cycling (amongst others) get compared to all years and if it had been a big decline.
    Which there hasn't been. It's more money that probably matches the rate of inflation.
     
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  2. Solid Air 2

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    Cyclings Olympic upward curve started in Sydney and spectacularly grabbed the headlines in Beijing and since then it is just trying to stay at that level but outside the Olympics i don't think many here realise how many British riders are in pro teams competing at world level on the road .
     
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    [QUOTE="moreinjuredthanowen, post: 17756154, member: 1010745"]It's an odd one as cycling requires triple and quadruple the athletes and then requires a big velodrome.and training facility and of course high tech expensive equipment.

    Boxing and the rest doesn't need much of that. It needs some facilities, some coachs and a small amount of kit relatively.

    The cost of.moving bikes alone to various meets and international events must be huge.

    You are in the end paying a living wage to athletes and coaches as well.

    Having people in the diving, swimming, track.and field does give you.a lot of spare events and second chances that the other sports don't have but they can all.be put after one bad performance.

    The issue with boxing is that there's a huge amount of fixing going on. There were many. Outs there that judges walked in closed their eyes and just handed results to their own continent or whoever had paid them most. There were matches with one and two judges who were disgraceful in the early rounds imo.

    Boxing deserves to be out of the Olympics for that but this was an Olympic event and it was being fixed just the same as it was in rio where it was rampant and that's 8 years ago.

    At least the taekwando fixed itself with electronic scoring after being debacle.[/QUOTE]
    not sure where you are getting that from unless you are including BNX & MTB in that
     
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    This years olympic programme was weighted in favour of sprinters and the Dutch had the outstandin sprinter simple as that .
     
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  5. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    Talent stealing?
    I can't argue with either of those two points

    I would argue that everyone in cycling has known that for the last 4 years and if that is the way it is to be in the future surely they should be looking at ways to beat the Dutch.
     
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  6. InBiscanWeTrust

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    ffs <doh>
     
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  7. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Sound like a politician talking about nhs
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    A natural fall off but also proves the fallacy of the inspiring youngsters with home games

    In reality the Brazilian and Japanese and the UK and the french went out before their games and grabbed every prospect and pumped them up with funding and opportunities to get those big home medals.

    The UK benefitted in rio and Tokyo and you can see the same effect for the others.

    Our medals are dropping as others are just better and the minority sports are back to being dominated by others.

    Winning loads of bronzes is good though. Its picking up the the pieces in lots of events invested in while others go win them

    Like winning medals in relay races but not winning too.many track and field golds.

    Oh you might get kids going along to whatever sport for a few weeks after an Olympics but the facilties and quality of coaching is what keeps them.
     
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    Or the interest increases in particular sports so those sports try and cash in by charging more to take part and only the rich kids get to do it, therefore reducing the talent pool
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Interesting point.
     
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    It's interesting that the total number of medals is really consistent, and the number of silver also hasn't changed too much. We've just been swapping golds for bronzes.
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Not quite as good as the best but loads of bronzes in cycling and athletics and swimming. There's enough events that allow this to happen for.big nations

    I find it interesting that Germany for example.wont put the money in for elite sport but every area has facilities.

    France loves to pretend its a patriotic nations that's never been walked all over (twice) but historically have been trash at a lot of sports. It will be interesting to see if they keep up their medal haul.or all go back to surrendering at the first sign of trouble.

    Japan's happy this time was interesting also. Massive amount of medals just showing how much money they put in for Tokyo I suppose
     
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    Regarding earlier discussion of break dancing being a sport... If breakdancing, why not pole dancing. No I'm not talking about strippers, legitimate pole dancing. Probably a lot more technically and athletically complex than even break dancing... And I guarantee it would get a lot more viewers... Won't happen though because of its Association with strippers but I think if break dancing belongs, pole dancing does too.
     
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  16. RogerisontheHunt

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    Why not any dancing?

    Breaking proved it shouldn't be in the Olympics.
     
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    Morris dancing? :bandit:
     
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  18. RogerisontheHunt

    RogerisontheHunt Well-Known Member

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    No, never morris dancing.

    Nobody should be subjected to Morris dancing
     
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    You could probably say that about any team sports when you look at the olympics
    I realise this will be controversial
    But why should football - rugby - hockey be in the olympics and Cricket not
    In fact why should team sports be in there at all
    I have no problem with forms of dancing being in there - a lot of Gymnastics is tantamount to dancing imho
    Dancing in most forms is just as physically demanding as most sports and the time and effort put into achieving the top levels is massive

    ftr I haven’t put hours of thought into this lol
     
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  20. RogerisontheHunt

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    It is.... in 2028

    But is dancing a sport? I'd say no, I'd say dancing is dancing. I don't deny it takes skill and effort and physicality but it doesn't stop it being Dance. The clue is right there in the name, Break Dancing. Calling it Breaking is just trying to hide what everyone knows.

    Gymnastics is defined as a sport, as for it being dance like, that is one event (the womens floor) which if you actually watch it isn't very dance like. The Rhythmic stuff is more like circus skills, but it falls under the Gymnastics family and they get to choose their events for the Olympics, like all the governing sport bodies do.
     
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