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Some don’t even recognize what they have and how they are better off than others.
Have you ever taken the privilege walk
https://edge.psu.edu/workshops/mc/power/privilegewalk.shtml
I can't vouch for the veracity of the test but there are some interesting questions but it's obviously US focused
I've seen the UK version done in practice, and it flags up the fact that the test itself is systemically racist and discriminatory as is the term 'white privilege' which itself meets its own test as being racist.
The UK version tend to be done by giving people a card with the person they're supposed to be ie you're a BAME loan parent etc. and the situations called out one at a time. If applied strictly the person furthest back would be the disabled person, especially if they're deaf, as they wouldn't move at all.
Some of the other questions should cause a white person to step back, and the outcome would show racial discrimination, but this is taken to mean against BAME's.
Most discussions on white privilege ignore so much that they're effectively meaningless, and can usually be distilled down to wealth privilege
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BLM aren't oppressed they are multi millionair political agitators prepared to loot and kill to meet there Marxist agenda.
There is a need, expecially in America to improve race relations, but the best option the 350 million people USA came up with was Marxist murderers, who have just made things much worse.
I think the problem here was very few realised that there was already a group called BLM in the USA we thought it was just a lose term or a group quickly thrown together over night. The boxer Johnny Nelson summed it up when he said the opportunity has been missed as we just needed to add two words to the end of the slogan here, and that was “as well”. We should have adopted “Black Lives Matter As Well”.
The main thing that holds back BAME's is the incessant line from some left leaning quarters that they are held back because of their colour, and then it usually adds some comment about slavery, but ignores the fact that all races have a history of being enslaved, it was predominantly white people that outlawed it, and this was opposed by a fair few blacks. Slavery is still a massive issue, and it tends to be initiated by BAME's at the base. The first slave owner in America was a black man.
Bestowing victim status on people based on the wrong criteria can only hold them back more, as the key issues do not get addressed and it is in and of itself racist.
You may have been making that point, but that test doesn't. You don't necessarily inherit a disability or wealth for example.
An opportunity missed is correct, it's the option that's given, when given a choice between carry on, and a Marxist group who want to loot and murder, people choose the lesser evil.
If the so called privilege is not being born in a ghetto, I would hope that the full reasons that ghetto existed were investigated and tackled. My guess is that it will find that it relates to something related to 'expectations' and that these are informed by negative comments pushed forward suggesting it's simply down to discrimination based on colour. Those comments generally have little basis in fact in the modern world, but can be made to look reasoned if that's the only conversation being held.
I would propose that we are all racist, to some extent, and have a desire to associate with people we perceive to be "one of us" Personally I don't feel there is anything wrong with a person that is like this but I feel that those of us that have benefited form the privileges, is that an emotive word shall I use opportunities? that ensue from being born into a majority white society recognise that we have been given a leg up that not everybody gets and endeavour to establish a more level playing field, unless of course one likes the status quo.
I can think of an awful lot of people who certainly don't feel that so called 'privilege'. In the UK, as in most of the west, we have equal opportunities, in fact there are specific laws to support people that are not white, that cannot be accessed by those that are. What you can't have is equality of outcome, or you'd have to create a system where Pavarotti could be a pole vaulter.
I'd also point out that White farmers in South Africa as just one example, could do with someone shouting their corner on the subject.
If you watch it, you'll see it's an educated black person, not born with any of the so called privileges voicing her opinion on the subject. I don't know you, but I'd guess she's in a more informed position than either of us.
Lol I knew that was coming, the let's ban him for having a different opinion mob will be here soon.
Lol I knew that was coming, the let's ban him for having a different opinion mob will be here soon.
Nothing against the opinions expressed Chesh but we do have a poster who communicates via excessive video usage to the point where it has become tedious, sorry no offence meant DMD,If you watch it, you'll see it's an educated black person, not born with any of the so called privileges voicing her opinion on the subject. I don't know you, but I'd guess she's in a more informed position than either of us.
No offence taken. I simply wanted to offer the views of people that are well informed on the subject, and that can word it better than I can. Sadly, doing that makes some people uncomfortable with the content as it forces them to re-evaluate their world view, so they try to do what they can to change the conversation. It usually results in appeals of 'racism' to try to shut down the conversation, which is sad, as it means the plight of those at the lower end of society doesn't get looked at fully.
Division is a key tactic for some political groups, as their goal is not related to the advancement of their fellow man to the benefit of society in general.