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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    All the events I listed are attributable to climate changes
     

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  2. blonogasoven

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    Thanks for that. I'll just check your sources......

    Hang on!
     
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  3. blonogasoven

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    Virtue signalling.
    I object to BLM the political movement as does Trevor Philips, the commentator on black issues.
    I also object to players using the black power salute.
    I think it could actually cause problems because it is frustrating people now as has been shown at Millwall and Cambridge Utd.
    It can't go on forever but it's having the guts to stop with the media sword of Damocles hanging over any team that does.
     
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  4. blonogasoven

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    I'm going to address bush fires because that is local to you. There have always been bush fires, correct?
    A study from earlier this year said that bush fires are 30% more likely than they were in 1910 due to climate change.
    This is all in the news because of the recent severe bush fires in Australia.
    If you read even just the article you see:

    Researchers previously have suggested that an El Niño-like atmosphere-ocean weather pattern known as the Indian Ocean Dipole, which was in a strong positive phase in 2019, may have played a role in exacerbating the dry conditions (SN: 1/9/20). Global warming may make such extreme positive phases of this pattern more common. The new study confirmed that the 2019 positive phase made drought conditions more extreme, but could not confirm this particular phase’s relationship to climate change."

    So they attribute the el nino effect to climate change and then take it from there.

    I would suggest that the bush fires are very likely caused by man, with a disgarded ciggy or BBQ.

    It is a perceived link that cannot be proven. What if there are no bush fires this year?
     
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  5. Eric Le Merde

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    You can suggest as much as you want but most fires are started by lightning. California has had more, Greece, France, Portugal, Spain etc

    El Nino and La Nina are normal natural events not caused by climate change.
     
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  6. blonogasoven

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    Coral bleaching:
    Many articles only cite global warming as one of many factors but

    https://www.worldwildlife.org/pages...-about-coral-bleaching-and-how-we-can-stop-it

    This one blames it. It further says that an increase of "as little as 2 degrees can start the reaction"

    Now putting aside the blatantly obvious change in close to shore ocean temperature between Summer and Winter, we need to see how much Ocean temperature has increased.

    They think 0.13 degree a decade, so 1.3 degrees in the last 100 years.

    Do you see the problem or do I have to explain it?

    And please don't say that scientists told you so it must be true because they didn't, the media did.
     
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  7. Irishshako

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    <laugh>
     
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  9. blonogasoven

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    It's not me saying it! I just read the actual articles. When you get past the headlines you see the actual facts.
    There has always been and will always be bush fires so climate change can only cause more or less and there is no proof it does either.
     
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    I always preferred 70s bush fires:grin:
     
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  11. Eric Le Merde

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    Actually scientists did. We had a very good presentation by a researcher who works on the barrier reef and they were investigating why the coral is dying. They have found an identical species in the red sea that lives in temperatures slightly higher than those on the great barrier reef and are trying to understand how it has adapted and over what period. I read very little about climate change from the media, in the same way as I wouldn't expect them to know much detail about nuclear physics or quantum mechanics.
     
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  12. Eric Le Merde

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    Screen Shot 2020-12-19 at 8.12.32 pm.png
    https://www.csiro.au/en/Research/En...or-climate-change/2019-20-bushfires-explainer

    The linked article also explain the impact that climate change is having on bush fire season
     
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    whoop=fuc*ing-ee
     
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  14. blonogasoven

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    Did the scientist tell you how much of the Great Barrier Reef was affected and how much has since recovered?
    Did he tell you that there are other factors affecting the coral reef? Did he explain that coral reefs adapt to changing temperatures?
    Since he was a scientist he must have done so you must have forgotten to mention it.
     
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  15. blonogasoven

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    There have always been bush fires and they will continue to happen. You can blame the severity on climate change but do you really think that an average rise in temperature of 1 degree is responsible for the increase/severity of bush fires? Nothing else you can do in Australia and there is nothing Australians have done that might have compounded the known risk?
    What you want is for me to pay a huge premium to heat my home because you get some bush fires.

    You're close to China. If you want to reduce CO2 emissions by an enormous amount just tell them they can't industrialise.
     
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    I wonder if they get bush fires in Brazil?

    I delivered to someone called Deborah Dallas the other day (honestly) I wanted to ask if her middle name was Does
     
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  17. brisbane-lion

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    If you lived here, Blono, you wouldn't use the expression "some bush fires" quite so easily. You have to actually see a bush fire to appreciate it's power. (Of course you have. What am i thinking)
     
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    ACAB
     
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  19. blonogasoven

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    I'm not making light of them by any means, I just question the irrefutable link to climate change.

    The media get hold of these stories and blow them up. For example, by acreage, which is the important factor, where is the worst place in the USA to be affected by wild fires?
    It suffers around half the total land loss.

    You might be surprised, and yes, it is also attributed to climate change.
     
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    I decided not to go live in the north pole because its ****in freezing :emoticon-0114-dull:
     
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