Off Topic OLOF's political thread

You inspired me bud you bring the booze, but Farage can **** off

 

If you're bringing the booze Olof, you'd better order in excess cos Shaks will want to be a member too........

 

Thank **** Shako doesn't do politics LL, we wouldn't be able to afford his bar bill

Minister for drinks sounds good though

 

No what I said was most of the swing was caused by people wanting to vote for remain parties. There were still a lot of people voting for both labour and conservative parties who officially want to enact "the will of the people"

 

Yeah, but you know Shaks, he'll sneak in some how for the booze, even to the point of putting on a pinstripe suit and bowler hat and pretending to be English....

 

Good word that, Eric. Officially. Yeah, right.

 

You're just like our politicians telling us what we voted for, you like them hav'nt a f--king clue.

 

Perhaps not, but you have to place your bet to be in the game

 

You can only go with what is in black and white otherwise you'll end up voting for Clive!!

 

So why did UKIP lose 145?

The three parties 'supporting Brexit' all lost seats. The two parties supporting remain both gained seats.

As I said earlier the results are more complex than that and and so people can pour any old **** theories in but still sticking with we are divided and ****ed as ever.

But if people wanted Brexit without the dog leads then there's no way UKIP should lose 145 - so it's either not enough people want that, not enough brexiteers could be arsed to vote in these local elections or they don't want brexit with overt racist and fascist overtones. (or likely a combination of all of these)

In the Europeans I can only see a big collapse for Conservatives, a drop for Labour and UKIP; big support for Brexit Party and increased support for Lib Dems, Change and Greens.

 

Yes I agree. There wasn't anything clearly established and you never know people may have voted on local issues for local people but not casting votes for parties that support Brexit indicates to me that people were expressing a view. Is it the only view? I suspect not as the leavers didn't, in their opinion, have anybody to vote for. Except, wait, there was the UKIP party.

 

Not sure there has been an increase in support for the Liberals,hard to find numbers,but it looks like other party voters just didn't vote,which means the liberals won more seats but with not that many more votes.From what I can find something close to 70% didn't vote at all.

 

Lib-Dems also did terribly last time these set of seats were contested so were starting from a very low point but when you even win Rees-Mogg's home ward it's not a bad evening for them but these results and the European results will be unique to these elections and won't translate to a general election but will definitely effect what happens before a general election

 

In all that verbosity you did get one thing right Brexiters could not be arsed.

 

Why should they, Tuppence. They've voted once and it was completely ignored, why bother?

 

Exactly

 

Just thought I would give you all a update on my thoughts for today.
Theresa May is a traitor.

 

WOW!! Who would have thought? (Theresa May being traitor, not you having a thought)

 

Looks like the ground is beginning to tremour under the corrupt Euro MEPS.

Jacob Rees Mogg disagrees with you, and I agree with him.

Brexit party didn't stand in local elections, if they did they would've won a lot of seats.

Brexit Party will win a lot of MEP seats cos that's what they stand for, to see Brexit delivered lock, stock and Barrel, so will many independents and UKIP. Brussels is where the power is as far as Brexit is concerned.

Our General Election will see big changes, not sure Brexit Party will do so well cos they're for Brexit only unless they change their name and policies after the Brussels elections. Labour won't do so well either, and Tories will probably be ousted if May is still PM. People also recognise the other MP's, both Labour and Tories who voted against Brexit, this will sway their attitudes towards the 3 main parties and not so many MP's will gain anything, but lose a lot.

The people of the UK have woken up, as they have around the world.

The populist right will win the war eventually.........The NWO, Deep State, Soros, Corrupt MEP's and Muslims can go to hell, they have a lot of friends there.

 

Not being 'in the loop' as far as detailed BREXIT negotiations go, I don't understand what the Lisbon Treaty is all about, not the treaty per se, but the controversy surrounding it. On the one hand I read that it is the end of the world for the UK, then i read that it isn't, then it is not binding, then it has already been implemented. Just where does the UK stand on this? I guess someone must have signed off on this deal at some stage. Can anyone give me a quick dumbed down version of this, please. (It has to dumbed down, not because I'm a Millwall supporter but because any answer will be from Leeds and they don't know a lot of big words).