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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by MIGHTY, Oct 1, 2017.

  1. LeedsLover

    LeedsLover Well-Known Member

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    That was just an accusation they thought up 18 months after Brexit vote won because they were running out of negative ideas to thwart Brexit.



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    "What a joke the Remain side attempted to buy the result & still lost it's groups outspent Leave groups by over £5 million even without the £9 million government Pro-EU leaflet. Britain’s Electoral Commission has since fined the remain campaign, the Open Britain campaign formerly known as Britain Stronger in Europe (BSE) & The European Movement group for overspending by millions. We haven't even got to the money spent by the Banks, CBI, ECB & corporate organisations who all tried to influence the result in favor of remain or the millions given to the BBC by the EU commission in the run up to elections to broadcast endless Pro-EU propaganda".



    Sani, a British Muslim Pakistani, obviously friend of T May isn't convincing.

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    "Soros is funding remain with $18 Billion"



    Cambridge Analytica have been exposed and proven to cheat and lie, not only in UK, but by the yanks as well.
     
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  2. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Most of that is wrong or just an opinion LL

    EU collapsing is predicted on a monthly basis by brexiteers and papers like the Express. It never seems to happen does it? And why the interest? If we are leaving we can wish the EU well can’t we, why do we need it to fail to justify our decision to leave?

    There are no signs anyone else will follow us, you are kidding yourself

    Our EU contribution is large but far from being as much as the rest combined it is actually less than Germanys

    We are staying in NATO so they still have our military support
     
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  3. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    No it started as an accusation then the Electoral Commission investigated, Vote Leave did not cooperate, the Electoral Commission found the allegations were true.
     
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  4. LeedsLover

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    I've extended my comments with videos and quotes.
     
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  5. LeedsLover

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    This happened back in 2009.


    This is why they want our forces, for the EU Army to take on the Russians.


    "EU collapsing is predicted on a monthly basis by brexiteers and papers like the Express. It never seems to happen does it? And why the interest? If we are leaving we can wish the EU well can’t we, why do we need it to fail to justify our decision to leave?

    There are no signs anyone else will follow us, you are kidding yourself"

    Other countries will follow us out of the EU, Italy are the favourites to follow, and the 4 Visegrad countries seem to be on the brink as the EU continually attacks them over not letting migrants / refugees in.
     
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  6. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    Arrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!
     
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  7. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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    You are just kidding yourself
     
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  8. 2020VisionofLeeds

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    On the EU budget we are 3rd largest net contributor. That speech you show was made in 2009 and it alleged we would end up paying much more, but it hadn’t happened up to now

    See
    https://fullfact.org/europe/uk-one-biggest-contributors-eu-budget/. For the recent facts

    Also compared to GDP we are nowhere near the biggest, smaller countries like NL pay more per head than we do.

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  9. dbc

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    Our monetary contribution is not as large as Germany's or France - so not sure how that would work

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/
     
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  10. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    Leave means leave is as meaningless as Brexit means Brexit as it fails to define how to leave. There are many ways of leaving. If I moved out of my house to rent it out would I leave my furniture - possibly yes.
    If I left my house because I'd sold it with agreement to leave some fixture and fittings would I leave my furniture - possibly yes.
     
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  11. lifecheshirewhite

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    Leave means whatever the government decide the best way of leaving is,but the leave bit is fixed.
    We can work out the best way to leave,but all options will be leave.
     
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  12. dbc

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    Cambridge Analytica have been exposed and proven to cheat and lie and that's exactly where the £700,000 payment went from the official Leave campaign into BeLeave a campaigning group set up by two students who didn't even have a bank account until this payment and who which was then used to pay Cambridge Analytica for their services.
     
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    And didn't the students pay the money and then admit they broke the law.The students should go prison with Cameron who did the same with £7 million pounds of tax payers money,so should all the remain mps who were in it with Cameron.
     
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  15. dbc

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    The leave bit is very, very likely but it's not fixed. The referendum was 'technically and legally' advisory so if the government decided to withdraw Article 50 (and that is legally debatable either way) then it would not be fixed. Now politically that is very unlikely but again if public opinion moved substantially towards remaining (which it hasn't) then leaving would not be fixed.

    What is likely is that we have a transition period where we will 'leave' (and no longer have voting rights but will continue to pay whilst we further decide how (and if we really want to leave).
     
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  16. dbc

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    Nope the money never even reached their bank account it went direct to CA.

    What Cameron did was legal under our electoral laws (you can certainly argue whether it should be) but by definition it was and had previously been done by the government in the Scottish referendum and in the first European referendum in 75

    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co...mon-market-referendum-campaign-documents.html
     
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  17. lifecheshirewhite

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    At the end of the day,remain spent £14 million,and leave £7.7 million,get over it.

    And done in 75 you say when we joined the EU.
    So we were coned or cheated into joining in the first place ? The sooner we get out of the thieving cheating EU the better then.
     
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    I'm still waiting for WW3 to start, and the emergency budget, and the .... well, you get the picture
     
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