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johnsonsbaby said:
I think people are deliberately misreading the luck comments. Their goals weren't lucky in and of themselves. They were good goals. They came about through lucky circumstances. You simply can't deny that. You say eg the second goal wasn't lucky, it came from bad defending, I agree. It was the timing of the goal, as you go on to mention that was the luck. It happens, we know because we've been the beneficiaries of it too.

My overall take is that the better team on the day won the match. They won with 2 goals that came from lucky circumstances. Both sentences can be true at the same time.
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Nobody deliberately misreads

If someone says they were lucky and it doesn't match up.with what was seen they say so.

You have clarified they just got two lucky goals.

I still dont agree with that, they'd have done things differently thsts all.

I wouldn't accept a rival telling us we just got lucky if we scored one either.

Same.as.burneky saying we got lucky after we camped on their 18 yard line all gsme trying while they didn't.

Or arsenal where szobo scores a 1 in 109 free.

Everything could be called luck.

Ino tjry took their goal and sat on it. If they didn't get it thst way they'd have got it another way.

If anything they could say we got lucky we were not 5 down at ht.

I'd not accept that either l, as alisson is alisson
 
Neither here or there said:
No chiesa, must be saved for weekend.
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Maybe its a paperwork thing.

Its a **** system uefa have if they cant fix the registration in time to not miss games a week later.

Alisson, Gomez, Endo, Van Dijk, Konate, Kerkez, Wirtz, Szoboszlai, Isak, Mac Allister, Salah, Bradley, Jones, Gakpo, Ekitike, Mamardashvili, Robertson, Woodman, Frimpong, Gravenberch, Ngumoha.

My side

Alisson
Frimpong konate vvd Robertson
Gravenberch macallister
Salah wirtz gakpo
Ekitike

Launch szoboszlai on 60 for macallister
Keep Jones sat down unless we are winning

Make wirtz play 90 at 10 and bench him.on the weekend.

Give Ekitike 60 and isak 30.

Let's get wirtz going in the cl where the football and refs will suit him

Let's do the same with frimpong.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Nobody deliberately misreads

If someone says they were lucky and it doesn't match up.with what was seen they say so.

You have clarified they just got two lucky goals.

I still dont agree with that, they'd have done things differently thsts all.

I wouldn't accept a rival telling us we just got lucky if we scored one either.

Same.as.burneky saying we got lucky after we camped on their 18 yard line all gsme trying while they didn't.

Or arsenal where szobo scores a 1 in 109 free.

Everything could be called luck.

Ino tjry took their goal and sat on it. If they didn't get it thst way they'd have got it another way.

If anything they could say we got lucky we were not 5 down at ht.

I'd not accept that either l, as alisson is alisson
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In general, people deliberately misread all the time as in they know very well what was meant but choose to use a different interpretation. On here it happens every now and again. My initial comment which some have jumped on, never said lucky. That's where it's been deliberately misread to turn my comment about "Palace benefitted from luck today " into the comment saying they were lucky to win.

A lucky win most often means not reflective of effort. A win involving 2 goals that came from "strokes of luck" - which was my next comment - is very different to describing it as a lucky win.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
In general, people deliberately misread all the time as in they know very well what was meant but choose to use a different interpretation. On here it happens every now and again. My initial comment which some have jumped on, never said lucky. That's where it's been deliberately misread to turn my comment about "Palace benefitted from luck today " into the comment saying they were lucky to win.

A lucky win most often means not reflective of effort. A win involving 2 goals that came from "strokes of luck" - which was my next comment - is very different to describing it as a lucky win.
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I think the problem is luck can be used so subjectively in football that people can use it in very different ways.

Think you or maybe someone mentioned 2nd goal had some luck because kerkez cleared it poorly - is that luck? Or is that just football?

Can’t argue the first one was lucky to be given a corner, but then then you defend how many corners a season and don’t concede - so still has the chance to clear it.

I think when it comes to football, you’d have to say luck is maybe something that you could see happen 50 times and not result in a goal but 1 time it does. Like a huge deflection off someone going wrong way, a backpass to keeper bouncing over his foot etc. something that isn’t in the game plan but had a bit impact.

Either way I don’t think it’s wrong to say they had some luck, but in same way Liverpool have had their slice of luck with Burnley player sticking his arm up and being 1/2 a yard inside own box for a pen.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
I think the problem is luck can be used so subjectively in football that people can use it in very different ways.

Think you or maybe someone mentioned 2nd goal had some luck because kerkez cleared it poorly - is that luck? Or is that just football?

Can’t argue the first one was lucky to be given a corner, but then then you defend how many corners a season and don’t concede - so still has the chance to clear it.

I think when it comes to football, you’d have to say luck is maybe something that you could see happen 50 times and not result in a goal but 1 time it does. Like a huge deflection off someone going wrong way, a backpass to keeper bouncing over his foot etc. something that isn’t in the game plan but had a bit impact.

Either way I don’t think it’s wrong to say they had some luck, but in same way Liverpool have had their slice of luck with Burnley player sticking his arm up and being 1/2 a yard inside own box for a pen.
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I agree with all of that. (It wasn't me who said Kerkez made a mistake). <ok>
 
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We've never actually won in 90 mins in Istanbul IIRC.

I'm not looking forward to this. These tricky CL weeks were where Klopp more often than not got his rotation spot on. Slot's still finding his feet with the influx of new signings and their relative fitness levels/form etc.
 
The IncREDibles said:
We've never actually won in 90 mins in Istanbul IIRC.

I'm not looking forward to this. These tricky CL weeks were where Klopp more often than not got his rotation spot on. Slot's still finding his feet with the influx of new signings and their relative fitness levels/form etc.
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Should be a tasty game if nothing else.

Thry have some serious names and then some players we should breeze by as well.

If salah turns up again in the cl its full to the theory he is only motivated by 1 comp
 
It'll be interesting.

They got destroyed by frankfurt last week. But Turkish sides dont travel well. Never have.

Gundogan and sane will play i presume.

Their games were then Monday night and firday night so they come into this game fairly well worked over.

Really guys it should be a big atmosphere but we should be powering through this.

We should.

Now who knows but they do have some interesting players there.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
Liverpool travel to Istanbul, yes that Istanbul, to take on Galatasary on Tuesday 30th September at 8 pm in Game Week 2 of the Champions League.

Match available on Amazon Prime.

The teams have met on four previous occasions, the last time being 19 years ago.

It's getting increasingly harder to predict the team given the amount of new players and Slot's recent desire for experimentation. I'll have a go.

Predicted lineup: Alisson, Bradley, Gomez, Virgil, Robbo, Jones, Gravenberch, Szoboszlai, Salah, Ekitike, Gakpo
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Amazon Prime. Another broad day robbery.
 
Interesting line up.

Assume Szobo moved to right wing today

Ali
Frimpong Konate VvD Kerkez
Jones Grav
Szobo Wirtz Gakpo
Ekitike
 
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