One thing about our current strip, it makes skate posters look stupid when they still refer to us as the deckchairs!
The truth is we really are behind the times when it comes to logos and crests. While club crest really adds **** all to club in general but is displayed so often and used as a marketing icon constantly to warrant regular upkeep and upgrading. I don't mind our current crest but i will freely accept a modernized design. Its a bit dated and theres just too much happening on here so it just looks cluttered if truth be told
The club gets recognition, new fans & therefore more sponsors/money etc from how it performs on the pitch. Having a new crest would generate next to no new awareness. All it would generate, would be some profit to whatever pile of ****shite advertising ****shites got the contract to slightly change the crest to something "modern". As it appears Katharina likes the heritage & identity of the "old crest", its a pointless debate anyway.
Could have the names of the 550 people from Southampton who died on the Titanic. Name Job Age Fate Address in 1912 Abbott, Ernest Owen Pantryman 21 Lost 98 Northumberland Road, Nicholstown, Southampton Abrams, William Fireman 33 Lost 11 Charles Street, Chapel, Southampton Adams, R Fireman 26 Lost 168 Romsey Road, Southampton Ahier, Percy Snowden Steward, 1st class 20 Lost 136 Northumberland Road, Nicholstown, Southampton Akerman, Albert Steward, 1st class 28 Lost 25 Rochester Street, Northam, Southampton Akerman, Joseph Francis Assistant Pantryman, 1st class 35 Lost 25 Rochester Street Northam Southampton Alaria, Baptiste Assistant Waiter 22 Lost International Stewards' Club, 9 Orchard Place, Southampton Allan, Robert Spencer Bedroom Steward 36 Lost Devonfield, Charlton Road Shirley Southampton Allen, Frederick Lift Steward, 1st class 17 Lost 9 Short Street, Chapel, Southampton Allen, George Scullion 26 Lost 32 Grove Street, Chapel, Southampton Allen, Henry Fireman 32 Lost 3 French Street, Southampton Allsop, Alfred Samuel 2nd Electrician 34 Lost 134 Malmesbury Road, Shirley, Southampton Allsop, Frank Steward, 1st class 41 Lost 73 Obelisk Road, Woolston, Southampton Anderson, Walter J Bedroom Steward, 1st class 48 Lost 12 Queen's Terrace, Southampton Ayling, Edwin George Assistant Vegetable Cook 25 Lost 22 Wilton Street, Chapel Southampton Back, Charles Frederick Assistant Lounge Steward 32 Lost 38 Weymouth Terrace, Southampton Bagley, Edward Ernest Steward, 1st Class 31 Lost 11 Woodside Road, Portswood, Southampton Bailey, George W Fireman 46 Lost 16 Brook Road (now Poole Road), Woolston, Southampton Baines, Richard Greaser 54 Lost 9 Union Place, Southampton Bannon, John Greaser 32 Lost 9 St George's Street, Southampton Barker, Reginald Lomond Second Purser 40 Lost Maybush House, Old Shirley, Shirley, Southampton Barlow, Charles Fireman 30 Lost 10 St Mary's Road, Southampton Barlow, George Bed Room Steward, 2nd class 36 Lost Carminster, Foundry Lane, Millbrook, Southampton Barnes, Charles Fireman 29 Lost 45 York Road, Freemantle, Southampton Barnes, Frederick Assistant Baker 37 Lost 25 Parsonage Road, Northam, Southampton Barnes, J Fireman 29 Lost Woodley Road, Woolston, Southampton Barratt, Arthur (Archie) Bell Boy, 1st class 15 Lost 164, Northumberland Road, Nicholstown, Southampton Barrett, Frederick William Fireman 33 Lost 26 Bevois Street, Chapel, Southampton Barringer, Arthur William Steward, 1st class 33 Lost 52 Padwell Road, Southampton Barrow, Harry Assistant Butcher 35 Lost 17 Derby Road, Nicholstown, Southampton Barton, Sidney John Steward, 3rd class 25 Lost 85, College Street, Southampton Baxter, Harry Ross Steward, 3rd class 51 Lost 5 Shirley Road, Shirley, Southampton Baxter, Thomas Ferguson Linen Steward, 1st class 48 Lost 81 Atherley Road, Hill, Southampton Beattie, Joseph Greaser 35 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Bedford, William Barnet Assistant Cook 31 Lost 163 Manor Road, Itchen, Southampton Beere, William Kitchen Porter 19 Lost 2 Avenue Cottages, Warren Avenue, Shirley, Southampton Bell, Joseph Chief Engineer 51 Lost 34 Canute Road, Chapel, Southampton Bendell, Frank Fireman 24 Lost 26 Woodley Road, Woolston, Southampton Benham, Frederick Steward, 2nd Class 29 Lost 56 Bridge Road (now part of Bernard Street), Southampton Bennett, George Fireman 29 Lost 3 Deal Street, Chapel, Southampton Benville, E Fireman 42 Lost 4 Orchard Lane, Southampton Bessant, Edward Ernest Baggage Steward, 1st class 31 Lost 39 Shirley Park Road, Shirley, Southampton Bessant, William Edward Fireman 39 Lost 36 Henry Road, Freemantle, Southampton Best, Edwin Alfred Steward, 1st class 38 Lost 87 Malmesbury Road, Shirley, Southampton Bevis, Joseph Henry Trimmer 22 Lost 171 Empress Road, Bevois Town, Southampton Biddlecombe, C Fireman 33 Lost 42 Kentish Road, Freemantle, Southampton Biggs, Edward Charles Fireman 21 Lost 65 College Street, Southampton Billows, J Trimmer 20 Lost 28 Bell Street, Southampton Bishop, Walter Alexander Bedroom Steward, 1st class 34 Lost 16 High Street (now Bishop's Road), Itchen, Southampton Black, Alexander Fireman 28 Lost 6 Briton Street, Southampton Black, D Fireman 41 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Blackman, H Fireman 24 Lost 58 College Street, Southampton Blake, Seaton Mess Steward 26 Lost Holyrood House, Winkle Street, Southampton Blake, Thomas Henry Fireman 36 Lost 35 Peel Street, Northam, Southampton Blaney, James Fireman 29 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Blann, Eustace Horatius Fireman 21 Lost 99 Pound Street (now Cannon Street), Shirley, Southampton Blumet, Jean Plateman 27 Lost 26 Richmond Street, Southampton Bochatez, Alexis Assistant Chef 29 Lost 28 Oak Bank Road, Itchen, Southampton Bolhuis, Henri Larder 27 Lost 37 Orchard Place, Southampton Bond, William John Bedroom Steward, 1st class 40 Lost 20 Hanley Road, Shirley, Southampton Boothby, W Bedroom Steward, 2nd Class 36 Lost 50 Ivy Road, St Denys, Southampton Boston, William John Assistant Steward, 1st class 30 Lost 1 Hanley Road, Shirley, Southampton Bott, William Greaser 44 Lost 6 Nichols Road, Nicholstown, Southampton Boughton, Bernard John Steward, 1st Class 24 Lost 10 Richmond Street, Southampton Boyd, John Steward, 1st class 35 Lost 52 Cranbury Avenue, Southampton Boyes, John Henry (Harry) Steward, 1st class 33 Lost 106 Clovelly Road, Southampton Bradley, Patrick Fireman 39 Lost 4 Green's Court, 101 East Street, Southampton Bradley, T Able Seaman 29 Lost 25 Threefield Lane, Southampton Bradshaw, J A Plate Steward, 1st class 43 Lost 2 Portland Street, Southampton Brewer, Henry Trimmer 30 Lost 26 or 27 Palmerston Road, Kingsland, Southampton Brewster, George Henry Bedroom Steward, 1st class 48 Lost 5 Carlton Place, Southampton Bristow, Robert Charles Steward 3rd class 31 Lost 49 Westridge Road, Portswood, Southampton Brookman, John Steward 3rd class 27 Lost 34 Richmond Street, Southampton Brooks, J Trimmer 25 Lost 128 Lyon Street, Nicholstown, Southampton Broome, Athol Frederick Verandah Steward, 1st class 30 Lost White Lodge, Castle Road, Bitterne Park, Southampton Brown, John Fireman 25 Lost 2 Russell Street, Southampton Brown, Walter James Steward, 1st class 36 Lost Nestleton, Hillside Avenue, Bitterne Park,Southampton Brugge, Wessel Adrianus Fireman 39 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Buckley, H E Assistant Vegetable Cook 34 Lost 7 Brunswick Square, Southampton Bull, W Scullion 20 Lost 27 Chandos Street, Southampton Bulley, Henry Ashburnham Boots steward, 2nd Class 21 Lost Carisbrooke, Britannia Road, Northam, Southampton Bunnell, Wilfred Plate Steward, 1st class 20 Lost 47 Kingsfield Road, Southampton Burr, Ewart Sydenham Steward, 1st Class 29 Lost 34 Victoria Road, Woolston, Southampton Burroughs, Arthur Fireman 35 Lost 73 Adelaide Road, St Denys, Southampton Burton, Edward John (Ted) Fireman 32 Lost 74 Chapel Street, Chapel, Southampton Butt, Robert Henry Steward, 1st class 22 Lost 6 Cawte Road, Freemantle, Southampton Butt, William Fireman 30 Lost 6 Cawte Road, Freemantle, Southampton Butterworth, Jack Steward, 1st class 23 Lost 270 Priory Road, St Denys, Southampton Calderwood, Hugh Trimmer 30 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Canner, J Fireman 40 Lost 17 Shamrock Road, Woolston, Southampton Carr, Richard Stephen Trimmer 37 Lost Malvern Cottage, Winchester Road, Shirley, Southampton Carter, James Fireman 46 Lost 5 Brinton's Road, Southampton Cartwright, James Edward Steward, 1st class 32 Lost 11 Western Terrace, Chapel, Southampton Casey, T Trimmer 38 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Casswill, Charles Saloon Steward 34 Lost 42 Oxford Avenue, Nicholstown, Southampton Castleman, Edward Greaser 37 Lost 37 North Road, St Denys, Southampton Caunt, William Ewart Grill Cook 27 Lost 55 Sydney Road, Shirley, Southampton Cave, Herbert Steward, 1st class 34 Lost 17 Shirley Park Road, Shirley, Southampton Cecil, Charles Steward, 3rd class 20 Lost 194 Millbrook Road, Freemantle, Southampton Charman, John Steward, 2nd class 25 Lost 10 Latimer Street, Southampton Cherrett, William Victor Fireman 25 Lost 13 Nelson Road, Freemantle, Southampton Chisnall, George Alexander Boilermaker 32 Lost 53 High Street (now Bishop's Road), Itchen, Southampton Chitty, Archibald George Steward, 3rd class 28 Lost 69 Bevois Valley Road, Bevois Valley, Southampton Chitty, George Henry Assistant Baker 52 Lost 69 Bevois Valley Road, Bevois Valley, Southampton Chorley, John Fireman 25 Lost 2 Regent Street, Southampton Christmas, Herbert Steward, 2nd class 33 Lost 4 Brinton's Road, Southampton Clark, Thomas Steward, 1st Class 37 Lost Hillside Avenue, Bitterne Park, Southampton Clench, George Able Seaman 31 Lost 10 Chantry Road, Chapel, Southampton Coe, Harry Trimmer 21 Lost 10 Cross Court, Southampton Coleman, Albert Edward Steward, 1st class 28 Lost 2, Myrtle Bank, Oak Tree Road, Bitterne Park, Southampton Coleman, John Mess Steward 55 Lost 7 Mortimer Road, Itchen, Southampton Cook, George Steward, 1st class 33 Lost 23 Bridge Road (now part of Bernard Street), Southampton Coombs, Augustus Charles Assistant Cook 39 Lost 78 Duke's Road, St Denys, Southampton Cooper, Harry Fireman 26 Lost 9 George Street, Northam, Southampton Cooper, James Trimmer 25 Lost 27 Pound Street (now Cannon Street), Shirley, Southampton Copperthwaite, Albert (Bert) Fireman 22 Lost 39 Mount Street, Southampton Corben, Ernest Theodore Assistant Printer, 1st class 27 Lost 58 Floating Bridge Road, Chapel, Southampton Corcoran, Denny Fireman 33 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Couch, Joseph Henry Greaser 45 Lost 42 Canton Street, Southampton Coutin, Auguste Entrée 28 Lost 37 Orchard Place, Southampton Cox, William D Steward, 3rd class 29 Lost 110 Shirley Road, Shirley, Southampton Coy, Francis Ernest George Junior Assistant 3rd Engineer 26 Lost 134 Portswood Road, Portswood, Southampton Crabb, Henry Trimmer 23 Lost 101 Fir Grove (now Firgrove) Road, Freemantle, Southampton Creese, Henry Philip Deck Engineer 44 Lost 2 Enfield Grove, Woolston, Southampton Crisp, Albert Hector Steward, 1st class 35 Lost 37 Macnaughten Road, Bitterne Park, Southampton Cross, W Fireman 39 Lost 97 Ludlow Road, Itchen, Southampton Crovella, Luigi Assistant Waiter 17 Lost 5 Orchard Place, Southampton Crumplin, Charles Bedroom Steward, 1st class 35 Lost 20 Shakespeare Avenue, Portswood, Southampton Cunningham, B Fireman 30 Lost 6 Briton Street, Southampton Curtis, Arthur Fireman 25 Lost 55 Kingsley Road, Millbrook, Southampton Dashwood, William George Steward, 2nd class 19 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Davies, Gordon Raleigh Bedroom Steward, 1st 33 Lost Hiawatha, Hillside Avenue, Bitterne Park, Southampton Davies, John J Extra 2nd Baker 27/28 Lost 19 Eastfield Road, St Denys, Southampton Davies, Robert J Steward, 2nd class 26 Lost 12 The Polygon, Polygon, Southampton Davies, Thomas Leading Fireman 33 Lost 2 Church Lane, Highfield, Southampton Dawson, Joseph Trimmer 23 Lost 70 Briton Street, Southampton Dean, George H Steward, 2nd class 19 Lost King Edward Avenue, Shirley, Southampton Deeble, Alfred Arnold Steward 29 Lost 81 Atherley Road, Hill Southampton Derrett, Arthur Steward, 1st class 26 Lost Lyndon, Hillside Avenue, Bitterne Park, Southampton Deslandes, Percival Stainer Saloon Steward, 1st class 36 Lost 405 Portswood Road, Portswood, Southampton Dickson, W Trimmer 36 Lost 10 Oriental Terrace, Southampton Dinenage, James Richard Steward, 1st class 47 Lost 4 Cawte Road, Freemantle, Southampton Dodd, Edward Charles Junior 3rd Engineer 37 Lost 26 Queen's Parade (now Queenâs Terrace), Southampton Dodd, George Second Steward, 1st class 44 Lost 59 Morris Road, Polygon, Southampton Dodds, Renny [Henry] Watson Junior Assistant 4th Engineer 27 Lost 12 Queens Park Terrace, Southampton Dolby, Joseph Reception Steward, 1st class 35 Lost 12 Devonshire Road, Polygon, Southampton Donoghue, T Bedroom Steward, 1st class 35 Lost 60 Ludlow Road, Itchen, Southampton Dornier, Louis Assistant Fish Cook 20 Lost 3 Orchard Place, Southampton Doughty, N Steward, 2nd class 22 Lost 65 Bridge Road (now part of Bernard Street), Southampton Doyle, Laurence Fireman 27 Lost 10 Orchard Place, Southampton Duffy, William Luke Writer/ Engineer's Clerk 26 Lost 11 Garton Road, Itchen, Southampton Dunford, William Hospital Steward, 3rd class 41 Lost 16 Bridge Street, Southampton Dyer, Henry Ryland Senior Assistant 4th Engineer 24 Lost 53 Middle Street, Inner Avenue, Southampton Dyer, William Steward, 1st class 31 Lost 46 Stafford Road, Shirley, Southampton Eagle, Alfred James Trimmer 27 Lost 13 Lyon Street, Nicholstown,Southampton Eastman, Charles Greaser 44 Lost 17 Cecil Avenue, Shirley, Southampton Ede, George B Steward, 3rd Class 22 Lost Bulkeley House, 47 Manor Farm Road, Bitterne Park, Southampton Edge, Frederick William Deck Steward, 2nd class 37 Lost 28 Clovelly Road, Southampton Edwards, Clement Assistant Pantryman, 1st class 39 Lost 7 Brunswick Square, Southampton Elliott, Everett Edward Trimmer 24 Lost Sailors' Home Oxford Street, Southampton Evans, George Steward 33 Lost 2 Nightingale Grove, Freemantle, Southampton Evans, George Richard Steward, 1st Class 32 Lost 36 Richmond Road, Shirley, Southampton Evans, William Trimmer 30 Lost 11 Ryde Terrace, Southampton Farquharson, William Edward Senior 2nd Engineer 39 Lost 90 Wilton Avenue, Polygon, Southampton Fay, Thomas Joseph Greaser 30 Lost 31 Standford Street, Chapel, Southampton Fellowes, Alfred J Assistant Boots Steward, 1st class 29 Lost 51 Bridge Road (now part of Bernard Street), Southampton Feltham, G Vienna Baker 36 Lost 64 St Denys Road, St Denys, Southampton Ferrary, Anton Trimmer 34 Lost 38 St Mary's Place, Chapel, Southampton Ferris, W Leading Fireman 38 Lost 5 Hanover Buildings, Southampton Finch, Harry Steward, 3rd class 18 Lost 32 French Street, Southampton Ford, Ernest Steward, 3rd class 31 Lost 100 Brinton's Road, Southampton Ford, F Bed Room Steward, 2nd class 37 Lost Hooper's Temperance Hotel, 66 Oxford Street, Southampton Ford, H Trimmer 22 Lost Royal Oak, 5 Evans Street, Southampton Ford, Thomas Leading Fireman 30 Lost 36 Russell Street, Southampton Foster, Albert C Storekeeper 37 Lost 38 North Front, Kingsland, Southampton Franklin, Alan Steward, 2nd class 29 Lost Egremont, Newton Road, Bitterne Park, Southampton Fraser, J Fireman 30 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Fraser, James Junior Assistant 3rd Engineer 29 Lost 54 Tennyson Road, Portswood, Southampton Freeman, Edward Ernest Samuel Deck Steward, 1st class 43 Lost 5 Hanley Road, Shirley, Southampton Gatti, Luigi Manager 36 Lost Montalto, Harborough Road, Polygon, Southampton Geddes, Richard Charles Bedroom Steward, 1st class 31 Lost 80 Grove Road, Freemantle, Southampton Geer, Alfred Ernest Fireman 24 Lost 2 Standford Street, Chapel, Southampton Gilardino, Vincenzo Pio Waiter 31 Lost 15 Bellevue Road, Southampton Giles, John 2nd Baker 30 Lost 104 Lime Street, Nicholstown, Southampton Gill, Joseph Stanley Bedroom Steward, 1st class 34 Lost 17 Suffolk Avenue, Freemantle, Southampton Gill, Thomas Patrick Ship's Cook 38 Lost 24 Waverley Road, Freemantle, Southampton Golder, M W Fireman 32 Lost 15 Lansdowne Hill, Castle Lane, Southampton Gollop, F Assistant Passenger Cook 28 Lost 27 Briton Street, Southampton Gordon, J Trimmer 29 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Goree, Frank Greaser 42 Lost 5 Belvidere Terrace, Northam, Southampton Goshawk, Arthur James Third Saloon Steward, 1st class 31 Lost 6 Coventry Road, Southampton Gosling, Bertram James Trimmer 22 Lost 11 Lower York Street, Northam, Southampton Gosling, S Trimmer 26 Lost 17 French Street, Southampton Gradidge, Ernest Edward Fireman 22 Lost 44 Radcliffe Road, Northam, Southampton Green, George Trimmer 20 Lost 57 Howard's Grove, Shirley, Southampton Gregory, David Greaser 40 Lost 30 Floating Bridge Road, Chapel, Southampton Gumery, George Mess Steward 24 Lost 24 Canute Road, Chapel, Southampton Gunn, Joseph Alfred Steward, 2nd class 28 Lost 22 Bridge Road (now part of Bernard Street), Southampton Gwinn, William Logan Postal Clerk 37 Lost 4 Commercial Road, Southampton Hall, F A J Scullion 38 Lost 70 Sydney Road, Southampton Hall, J Fireman 32 Lost 2 Westgate Street, Southampton Hallett, George Fireman 22 Lost 101 Church Street, Shirley, Southampton Hamblyn, Ernest William Bed Room Steward, 2nd class 41 Lost 2 Norman Villas, Dyer Road, Freemantle, Southampton Hamilton, Ernest W Assistant Smoke Room Steward, 1st class 25 Lost 5 Shirley Road, Shirley, Southampton Hands, Bernard Fireman 53 Lost St Michael's House, Southampton Hannam, George Fireman 27 Lost 1 Oxford Terrace, Millbank Street, Northam, Southampton Harding, Alfred John Assistant Pantryman, 2nd class 20 Lost Station Cottages, Wessex Lane, Swaythling, Southampton Harris, Amos Fred Trimmer 21 Lost 12 Wilton Road , Shirley, Southampton Harris, Charles Steward 18 Lost 14 ,Short Street, Chapel, Southampton Harris, Clifford Bell Boy, 1st class 16 Lost 14 Short Street, Chapel, Southampton Harris, Edward Fireman 28 Lost 83 Belgrave Road, Portswood, Southampton Harrison, Norman Junior 2nd Engineer 38 Lost 30 Coventry Road, Southampton Hart, James Fireman 49 Lost 51 College Street, Southampton Harvey, Herbert Gifford Junior Assistant 2nd Engineer 30 Lost 49 Obelisk Road, Woolston, Southampton Haslin, James Trimmer 45 Lost Sailors' Home, Oxford Street, Southampton Hatch, Hugh Scullion 22 Lost 446 Portswood Road, Portswood, Southampton Hawkesworth, James Steward, 2nd class 38 Lost 18 Wilton Road, Shirley, Southampton Hawkesworth, William Walter Assistant Steward, 1st class 43 Lost Bellmoor, Lemon Road, Millbrook, Southampton Hayter, Arthur Bedroom Steward, 1st class 44 Lost 10 Mayflower Road, Shirley, Southampton Head, A Fireman 24 Lost 19 Russell Street, Southampton Hendy, Edward Martin Steward, 1st class 38 Lost 21 Payne's Road, Freemantle, Southampton Hensford, Herbert George Assistant Butcher 29 Lost 132 Malmesbury Road, Shirley, Southampton Hill, Henry Parkinson Steward, 3rd class 36 Lost Hooper's Temperance Hotel, 66 Oxford Street, Southampton Hill, James Trimmer 25 Lost 10 Kingsland Square, Kingsland, Southampton Hill, James Colston (Jimmie) Bedroom Steward, 1st class 38 Lost 64 Cromwell Road, Southampton Hinckley, George Bath Steward, 2nd class 35 Lost Cambridge Temperance Hotel, 2 Oxford Street, Southampton The full list is here: http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/heritage/titanic/crew/
Here is the new USA away kit for the world cup. I might have to support them now, purely for aesthetic reasons. Haven't seen a shirt as nice as this for a very long time. If saints adopted it and changed the blue to black, I think we'd have an all-time winner on our hands.
Yeah, those are remarkably good considering the color palette they have to work with. I was shocked, considering the home kit is the worst, most uninspired POS I've ever seen. It's literally just a plain white polo shirt.
I don't really like it...perhaps it's better on someone. Looks too Captain America for me. England was very limited as apparently FIFA told us we had to have plain white...presumably after reviewing all the other teams colours.
