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DevAdvocate said:
How is it a different issue, there's an IRA man on the ****ing badge right next to the PLO man.

And I guess the reason Nir Biton got such a hard time from Celtic fans for his comments is that they were at the "Wind up".
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Of course it is, it is 2 different wars. As for biton he would get abuse for supporting Israel regardless of what team he plays for. Israel aren't exactly loved right now.
 
DevAdvocate said:
Google Hamas.
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Nice google history. <doh>


Hamas were created by Israel to split support for Fatah who were moderate not extremist.
Also, Hamas fired their first rockets in 2001 but the ethnic cleansing began in 1948 and the invasion and occupation began in 1967.

So what about the decades of torture, racism, murder and oppression, land stealing, controlled starvation ect before Hamas came along?

Treat any people like Israel has treated Palestinians for 7 decades and you'll create extremists every time.
 
Sisu said:
Nice google history.


Hamas were created by Israel to split support for Fatah who were moderate not extremist.
Also, Hamas fired their first rockets in 2001 but the ethnic cleansing began in 1948 and the invasion and occupation began in 1967.

So what about the decades of torture, racism, murder and oppression, land stealing, controlled starvation ect before Hamas came along?

Treat any people like Israel has treated Palestinians for 7 decades and you'll create extremists every time.
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Piss off.
 
eric cartman said:
:laugh: lost the argument. If you think this Palestinian Israel thing is serious between old firm fans then you have been led up the garden path.
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Nah Eric, you are talking utter ****e and whether or not you are at the wind up I don't really care. Your argument is shifting with every post like your ****e about 100% of Scots wanting Independence. You make up things at a whim. As ST says no ****, and I mean no ****, goes to the trouble of making flags and badges for a wind up and if you think they do then you need your ****ing bumps felt.

Wan Struggle ****s the lot of them.
 
DevAdvocate said:
Nah Eric, you are talking utter ****e and whether or not you are at the wind up I don't really care. Your argument is shifting with every post like your ****e about 100% of Scots wanting Independence. You make up things at a whim. As ST says no ****, and I mean no ****, goes to the trouble of making flags and badges for a wind up and if you think they do then you need your ****ing bumps felt.

Wan Struggle ****s the lot of them.
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So how do you explain all the banners that rival fans display at derby games? Winding your rival supporters up at football games is all part of the derby experience.
 
Some Celtic fans who don't care about Palestine:

**** you Biton, you shame our famous hoops! Let the wrath of the Celtic support bear down on your racist Zionist bloodlust ! Let 10,000 Palestinian flags fly at Murrayfield ! Hurriyeh Falasteen
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Time for complaints to Celtic about this?? If this was a player posting so called "sectarian" material the club would all over it so time for the fans to register their disgust at this support of the genocide of a people by a player from our club and for the club to come forward and disassociate with this type of behaviour
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For people going to the Celtic vs KR Reykjavík game on the 22nd at Murrayfield; we should have a strong visual show of support for Palestine. Our European games are broadcast all around the world and they offer us the best chance to show how we stand in support of the people of Gaza. This isn't just a show of solidarity but about building a public consensus that Israeli cannot continue to act out its colonialist ambitions.
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The biggest Wind up in World Football?

Glasgow, United Kingdom - On the final day of the Scottish football season, one of the biggest crowds in Europe turned up to watch Celtic FC being crowned champions.Nearly 60,000 fans danced and sang as their heroes demolished Edinburgh club Heart of Midlothian 5-0. Anthems such as "You&#8217;ll Never Walk Alone" and "The Celtic Song" mingled with tributes to players past and present.

Then something different happened. For a few minutes, in one corner of the stadium, a flurry of Palestinian flags flew proudly amidst the green and white colours of the home supporters. A banner appeared reading: "Dignity is More Precious than Food."

This display of support for Palestinian hunger strikers in Israeli jails was organised by members of the Green Brigade, a well-known "ultras" group who describe themselves as left-wing, anti-racist and anti-sectarian.


An unnamed spokesman told the "We are all Hana Shalabi" website: "We did this in solidarity, to raise awareness and because it's the right thing to do. We want Palestinians to know we are thinking about them and encourage Scottish civil society to look at the injustice in Palestine." Palestinian and Basque flags have been flown at Celtic Park since at least the 1980s. Celtic's identification with left-wing causes is said to reflect the sometimes bitter experience of the Scots-Irish community from which it sprang.

For most of the 20th century, Irish immigrants to Scotland faced prejudice and discrimination. Catholics were excluded from skilled trades and denied jobs in many of Glasgow's shipyards and engineering workshops. Celtic's great rivals, Rangers, the club of the Scottish Protestant establishment, reflected this intolerance with their own sectarian signing policy - refusing to enlist Catholic players - a policy which continued well into the 1980s.

Historian David Potter, who has written over 20 books about Celtic, told Al Jazeera that their success "provided a rallying point for the Irish community and gave them their self-respect". Many Celtic fans today regard the Palestinian struggle for national freedom and equality as similar to their own. Potter commented: "Ulster and Israel are similarly artificially created states. They were created by the British as an attempt to retain their influence, even if this was at the expense of naked and brutal suppression of those who disagreed."

On the other side of the city, Rangers fans fly the Israeli flag alongside the Union Jack. Some Ulster Unionists make a connection between their own minority status on the island of Ireland and Israel, standing alone against its foes in a hostile region. Other Rangers supporters fly the Star of David as a tribute to the club's former Israeli defender, Avi Cohen, who died tragically young in a motorcycle accident in 2010.

However, Alasdair McKillop from the Rangers Supporters Trust says the Israeli flags at Ibrox are largely a manifestation of the tit-for-tat dynamics of Glasgow's intense football rivalry. He told Al Jazeera: "I don't think many Rangers fans would list 'support for Israel' if you asked them what they thought it meant to be a Rangers fan. But in the world of Rangers and Celtic, every action has an equal and opposite reaction."

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/06/2012612204354413741.html
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Obviously just winding up the Hearts fans.
 
An unnamed spokesman told the "We are all Hana Shalabi" website: "We did this in solidarity, to raise awareness and because it's the right thing to do. We want Palestinians to know we are thinking about them and encourage Scottish civil society to look at the injustice in Palestine." Palestinian and Basque flags have been flown at Celtic Park since at least the 1980s. Celtic's identification with left-wing causes is said to reflect the sometimes bitter experience of the Scots-Irish community from which it sprang.
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A wind up?
 
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