Hopefully we do move on from both targets. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Rodgers doesn't bring in another CB all together. I am happy with the signings thus far but still we need a big player (hopefully Mkhitriyan). And I like the type of players we're bringing in - first and foremost, they are technical. Comfortable with the ball, versatile and seem to play with intelligence. From January, it looks as if the club have finally got their act together and are running properly. The only thing left to do is sort the stadium out and sort the horrendous kits out!
Nothing wrong with that, as long as fans don't expect him to deliver the earth - we have been falling for 4 years and imo 7th to 4th is ambitious (which we should be) but if we fall short of that target by a few points we can't go and sack him as we'll be back to square one.
I would expect further improvement in terms of our points tally. We improved by 9 points this season which is a very good improvement considering the horrendous start we had. Naturally, I would expect another 9 points this season which would take us to about 70 points. This may or may not get us to 4th spot but I wouldn't want Rodgers out if we don't qualify for CL.
I'd just like to see an improvement on league position, sixth or higher I don't think you can say points because it varies so much each season. The lower teams can be stronger or weaker etc.
Has to be the title for me. We will definitely do it because United will be **** now, City and Chelsea have new managers who aren't proven and Spurs and Arsenal will both choke. Next year is our year. Definitely. Fahkt. If he doesn't deliver I want to see an execution rather than a firing.
I see where you're coming from but I would use your own argument against you. As you say, teams can get stronger or weaker so the points tally for each positions constantly changes i.e. to reach 4th place, you need at the very least 70 points whereas a few years ago, you could probably get it for 60 points. I think points are a more consistent and batter measure of progress. E.g we only improved by 1 position this year (which doesn't sound that great) but a points increase of 9 points is quite significant.
honestly my expectations for him are not that bad... you lot are just asses.... I would expect that our side at this point can get 6th fairly easily I would put this out there as a minimum expectation. The rational is simple. Utd, city, chelsea will be the top 3 in some format. spurs are building a team that is way better than ours IMO and arsenal are going to be there or there abouts. My honest expectation would be 5th. I think we can achieve this and anything more would be over achieving. Finish below everton again and he deserves the sack IMO. I would tag on a minimum requirement in the cups too. They are a lottery obviously and if the Fa want to hurt you they draw you away in the cups. i think personally its all a fix Seriously though aside from a ****ty draw I would expect us to play a first team in the cups and make at least a genuine showing at winning each round that comes our way. I wouldn't not cry about an early cup exit if the game was genuinely a hard one away or we field our best team but lost.... i think we can go to semis in one cup, that's be my kind of target. I would not compare one season to another in so far as we got a bounce late on last season but an awful start so frankly if we got one but no the other kind of talk to my mind is what if's. So in summation, 5th or at least very close to 5th (<3points) a good showing in the cups with one decent cup run if we can..... hardly taxing. If rodgers can deliver that and look like he knows the score along the way i think he'll retain support. But i can say for sure, poor form, looking unprepared for the off, bad signings in fans minds or just not dealing with issues is going to cost him. He is not rafa nor kenny and neither had enough stock of good will to avoid the chop. Results will tell in the end.
this is not true, look at the historic tables, go back 10 years and you'll find its extremely rare for 4th to go for <70 points. In fact it is almost as good a barometer of success as the magic 40 points for the perennial strugglers. The pre seems to come down to 85-90 for top, 70 and above for top 4, about 55 points for top half and 40 and above to survive. The thing about it is that we could go even further than that point increase and look to the table in terms of home performance and away performance. Our home form was w9,d6,l4 and away form was w7, d7,l5 form this we could infer that improving our home from could give us another 9 points quite easily. If we refer back to rafa days wining 12 our of 19 at anfield was common. All in all i thought we did quite well on the road over all, to win the prem you need to do a lot better but i feel thats something that overambitious anyway... no making anfield more of a fortress and sending teams like west brom, west ham and everton home with a hiding would have helped our cause no end.
If we'd been offered 86 points prior to the 2008-09 season we would have taken it because we would have believed it would win us the league. At the time, no team had gained that many points in the Premier League and not won the league. We finished second! Points ARE a good gauge but they are not the be-all-and-end-all. League positioning signals were you are in comparison to the other nineteen Premier League teams having faced the same competition for thirty-eight games each. IMO, that is a much better gauge than points!
True but we could end up with 61 points again next season and finish 10th, or 4th. The positioning measure is too volatile. At least with points, you can gauge which position is relative i.e. 70 points should be close to top 4 qualification. We could finish 5th next season but end up with lower points. Of course, I would take that but would you class that as an improvement or decline? ...
But if you have six **** teams in the league next year, surely you would expect to gain more points then if they weren't there? Improving by nine points (as a example) is only an improvement if everythign remains the same or decreases. Edit: I obviously mean six better teams in their place.
