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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Magic Ted, Jul 2, 2013.

  1. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    This is possible but if we are trying to help Reina then there should be something in it for us, some provisional deal in place, not just saying we'll sit back and give him a free year to devalue and then start looking for a buyer at the end. If there is something in place for next year then great but I find it hard to believe. There's no reason why Barcelona couldn't buy Reina now, then they can loan him to Napoli to save some wages.
     
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  2. Tobes

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    No, you line up his replacement BEFORE he goes & then complete it AFTER <doh>
     
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  3. Tobes

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    Again you've missed the point mate. Reina knew that Barca was no longer an option for him this season, but you'd already replaced him. He's then turned round & said he won't go anywhere on a perm, thus forcing you to let him go on a loan deal or face the prospect of paying his £110k wages to a reserve keeper, which the Yanks have obviously said, is not going to happen. ALL of which has happened due to the fact that you jumped to complete the Mignolet deal too quickly. If you'd have kept it on hold until Barca made their move for Reina, then none of this would have happened & you'd still have £9m left in your kitty for this window.
     
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  4. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Because its that simple? Line up a keeper and say we might sign you but were just waiting to see if we need you or not before doing so?

    That will make them feel really wanted wont it...
    Plus I doubt the selling club would be happy us keep delaying completing the deal. They'd give us a deadline and if we don't complete by then, deal is off.
     
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  5. saintanton

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    Better to replace him before he's sold (when you know it's in the offing), than be left struggling for a replacement after he's gone.
    It's not ideal, but the lesser of two evils by far.
     
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  6. Klopp's Mannschaft

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    Agree with this. I think we've (mostly) handled it well.

    The only issue I have is flogging him to Napoli for nothing. He should at least have brought in a few mill as a loan fee. They've got a top quality, CL experienced number one keeper for nothing. Hopefully they're at least paying all his wages <doh>
     
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  7. Tobes

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    But my entire point was that you don't complete on the purchase until the deal is on the table for the sale. It's how the market works, hence the 'domino' effect of a major transfer & a whole raft of others completing within days of it, it's not a co-incidence, they've all been lined up weeks or even months in advance. Letting a keeper of Reina's quality go out on loan & thus filling a position with £9m of capital this window, when you surely had other far more pressing areas of concern, is a poor outcome in the cold light of day.

    Had you have got £8m back on Reina THIS window, then I'd have said it was a canny piece of business, this way round it's looking a bit of a dogs breakfast
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    what i want to know is how much napoli are paying us and paying reina....

    I do agree its better to have the replacement in but to loan a guy like riena out then find actually the squad is no better and 9mil is spent is not nice.

    a big club (which is what we want to think we are) would and do have the replacement in and the two players there for a season in many cases.

    i just don't get what the F a loan is all baout... help rafa out... are we more worred about wages than the team?

    anyway time to look at the match and support the team....
     
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  9. Master Yoda

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    We don't know if we'd still have got Mignolet in that situation.

    There will be some sort of loan fee, disclosed or not.
     
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  10. Master Yoda

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    A definitive statement that is not. Know that you cannot.

    A keeper's defence helps him reach such awards. Reina's error stats are some of the worst in the league.
     
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  11. Lucaaas

    Lucaaas Well-Known Member

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    Will someone please delete this post and the link that was posted with it? We don't want to be giving the scum rag any publicity or letting their website getting any clicks.
     
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  12. Lucaaas

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    This isn't football manager. Spending £9m on one player doesn't necessarily mean you lose out in other areas and that the £9m is taken out of the "summer budget".
     
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  13. Lucas Talking

    Lucas Talking Well-Known Member

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    Aquilani, Joe Cole, possibly Carroll. Wouldn't be surprised if the owners dicked this up too.
     
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  14. Tobes

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    Of course it does ffs.

    Do you think that the budget is unlimited & the manager can spend at will? These are multi £m pound capital invesments & every manager has a budget level for both fees & wages.
     
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  15. The artist JerryChristmas

    The artist JerryChristmas "Massive old member"

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    Since when have we had an unlimited pot of cash to spend? £9 million pound is still a lot of money even for a football club. It isn't football manager....this is REAL money. Money we didn't have to spend this summer, if Reina has a deal in place for next year why the bloody hell sign a keeper this summer? It's a mad argument (in this case) to buy someone in before a deal for Reina was agreed with Barca. Basically we've miscalculated the situation of our own player yet again. We've had our hand forced by gambling (wrongly) yet again.
     
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  16. THE FOOL

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    I don't think the Reina deal is to bad, we have replaced a keeper who has been in decline with a hopefully better keeper. It obviously would have been preferable to have sold Reina straight off, but as he will only go to Barca permanently and he has been a very loyal servant to the club, giving him a bit of leeway with the loan for a season is a decent compromise.

    Its not the best outcome that could have been reached but in the end everybody comes out mostly satisfied.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    "in decline"

    madness.....
     
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  18. THE FOOL

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    he is not as good as he was, therefor decline
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    again... thats madness.

    Barca buy a keeper in decline? hmmm.

    the guy flogged a few and as i said earlier today i got absolutely slated on this site for pointing it out at the time but since before christmas he's worked and imprved. can you plee point to ONE mistake since Christmas that he made?

    NO way is he in decline. If you said disinterested in LFC and its perennial hunt for 7th fine but decline? He's 30 not 40. his reactions were proved on several occasions in match saving action last year post Christmas.

    What i'd say is there are several clubs like arsenal grinding their teeth hearing he's gone on a loan when they were turned down and believe me the mancs will be laughing.
     
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  20. Zingy

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    You always calm me down in these situations Lucaaas. <laugh>
     
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