I was watching and yes thye did mess it up, compared to Red Bull/Ferrari but compared to their performances over the last 6-7 races it was WAY better!
Full results: PHP: Classified: Pos Driver Team Time 1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1h32:29.586 2. Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 2.513 3. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 5.260 4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 7.295 5. Alonso Ferrari + 13.411 6. Rosberg Mercedes + 13.842 7. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 15.085 8. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 15.567 9. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 24.432 10. Massa Ferrari + 25.272 11. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 37.693 12. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 46.236 13. Maldonado Williams-Renault + 47.052 14. Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1:04.475 15. Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap 16. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 1 lap 17. Senna Williams-Renault + 1 lap 18. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap 19. Petrov Caterham-Renault + 1 lap 20. Pic Marussia-Cosworth + 2 laps Fastest lap: Vettel, 1:15.752 Not classified/retirements: Driver Team On lap Glock Marussia-Cosworth 57 Schumacher Mercedes 34 De la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 25 Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 23 World Championship standings, round 7: Drivers: Constructors: 1. Hamilton 88 1. Red Bull-Renault 164 2. Alonso 86 2. McLaren-Mercedes 133 3. Vettel 85 3. Lotus-Renault 108 4. Webber 79 4. Ferrari 97 5. Rosberg 67 5. Mercedes 69 6. Raikkonen 55 6. Sauber-Ferrari 58 7. Grosjean 53 7. Williams-Renault 44 8. Button 45 8. Force India-Mercedes 28 9. Perez 37 9. Toro Rosso-Ferrari 6 10. Maldonado 29 11. Kobayashi 21 12. Di Resta 21 13. Senna 15 14. Massa 11 15. Hulkenberg 7 16. Vergne 4 17. Schumacher 2 18. Ricciardo 2
Was also nice to see different strategies coming together to within seconds at the end. Going for it and taking the degradation Vs eaking it out, both getting results, no one strategy forced upon teams.
Delighted for Lewis. About bloody time too! They kept you waiting eh but I don't think we can have any complaints - Lewis Hamilton leads the world championship and deservedly so. Alonso put in another top class performance I think but there's no doubting they fluffed it with the strategy late on in the race as did Vettel and Red Bull but in fairness Seb did the right thing even if it was way too late. I believe that we are heading towards a three way championship fight with Hamilton, Vettel and Alonso. One of those three will win the title I believe and based on consistency and his driving so far I have to plump for Lewis even if it is still incredibly difficult to call and relatively early on in the season. Lewis is having his best year since his debut in 2007 and I wouldn't put it past him on winning back to back by taking Valencia in two weeks time. Slightly unlucky to only take his first win only now but as BrightLampShade said nothing compares to the bad luck Schumacher is getting this season. Another DNF is shocking and you've got to wonder what is going on. Without those DNF's he'd have a real decent haul of points right now but as such is still stuck on a highly unrepresentative position but that is racing I guess. Surely one of these races it will all hook up for Michael? Still great race once again from Canada. Not a chance I would have been tempted by the Euro's even if it was Ireland today. A sport which pales into insignficance to this magnificent spectacle! Always a pleasure to watch the finest most elite sportsmen in the world and today they didn't disappoint again. Fine racing all round. Feel sorry for the poor bastards who made the decision to switch over. Casual f1 fans eh.
Would quite like to see Schumacher on the Podium in Valencia, his bad luck got dangerous today and loosing that much rear end grip at a fast street circuit like Canada could have seriously injured Schumacher and/or spectators... or even worse. Got to say it again, it was brilliant drive from Hamilton today but my optimism is slightly below McFerrari's for Valencia sadly , I see that as a Alonso track all over unless McLaren can bring in some updates and finish off those pitstop improvements. Alonso, Hamilton, Schu for the next race which will keep that championship tooing and throwing nicely until the last race
I don't see much chance of an 8th different winner in Spain next time. The best bet for it to happen is a Lotus, or Massa ignoring Ferrari's team orders.
Well, a spirited performance from Hamilton, despite his team, who really must work on pit-stop practice. I don't know about the clutch glitch: it's impossible to know whether it was a mechanical problem or a double error from Hamilton, but I am inclined toward the former. My advice to McLaren: Take an old car which does not contravene practice regulations and has an engine and gearbox to throw away; go to any circuit on the planet and do 30 pit-stops without error. If you manage 28 without a problem but the 29th goes wrong, start again from zero until you have done 30 without error. This is currently the biggest single weakness in McLaren's whole F1 operation.- - -o0o- - - Having said that, Red Bull threw away an almost certain 3rd with a possibility of 2nd. Similarly, Ferrari lost a very good chance at 2nd place. Both decisions seemed based on the gambling of tyres, in the hope that Hamilton would find the task too daunting; but when it was becoming clear that the game was up, Red Bull did the sensible thing in bringing Vettel in for damage limitation, still beating Alonso's lame Ferrari. His team's doggedly stubborn, ultimately erroneous race decision may yet prove costly in such a tightly contested seasonâ¦
Top 25 Lap times:<style type="text/css"> table.tableizer-table {border: 1px solid #CCC; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;} .tableizer-table td {padding: 4px; margin: 3px; border: 1px solid #ccc;} .tableizer-table th {background-color: #104E8B; color: #FFF; font-weight: bold;} </style> <table class="tableizer-table"> <tr class="tableizer-firstrow"><th>Rank</th><th>Driver</th><th>Time</th><th>Lap #</th></tr> <tr><td>1</td><td>VET</td><td>1:15.752</td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>2</td><td>VET</td><td>1:16.047</td><td>67</td></tr> <tr><td>3</td><td>VET</td><td>1:16.110</td><td>68</td></tr> <tr><td>4</td><td>MAS</td><td>1:16.182</td><td>69</td></tr> <tr><td>5</td><td>PER</td><td>1:16.414</td><td>67</td></tr> <tr><td>6</td><td>MAS</td><td>1:16.422</td><td>68</td></tr> <tr><td>7</td><td>VET</td><td>1:16.461</td><td>69</td></tr> <tr><td>8</td><td>MAS</td><td>1:16.469</td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>9</td><td>MAS</td><td>1:16.531</td><td>67</td></tr> <tr><td>10</td><td>RIC</td><td>1:16.609</td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>11</td><td>PER</td><td>1:16.643</td><td>68</td></tr> <tr><td>12</td><td>RAI</td><td>1:16.764</td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>13</td><td>PER</td><td>1:16.772</td><td>65</td></tr> <tr><td>14</td><td>MAS</td><td>1:16.828</td><td>64</td></tr> <tr><td>15</td><td>VET</td><td>1:16.829</td><td>66</td></tr> <tr><td>16</td><td>PER</td><td>1:16.888</td><td>69</td></tr> <tr><td>17</td><td>PER</td><td>1:16.889</td><td>60</td></tr> <tr><td>18</td><td>PER</td><td>1:16.938</td><td>61</td></tr> <tr><td>19</td><td>RIC</td><td>1:16.945</td><td>69</td></tr> <tr><td>20</td><td>PER</td><td>1:16.947</td><td>66</td></tr> <tr><td>21</td><td>MAS</td><td>1:16.996</td><td>66</td></tr> <tr><td>22</td><td>PER</td><td>1:17.002</td><td>70</td></tr> <tr><td>23</td><td>VET</td><td>1:17.004</td><td>65</td></tr> <tr><td>24</td><td>RIC</td><td>1:17.013</td><td>65</td></tr> <tr><td>25</td><td>HAM</td><td>1:17.020</td><td>59</td></tr></table> Vettel obviously dominating but Perez on old tyres also getting up there Also just checked the speedtrap data... wtf Karthikeyan? <style type="text/css"> table.tableizer-table {border: 1px solid #CCC; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;} .tableizer-table td {padding: 4px; margin: 3px; border: 1px solid #ccc;} .tableizer-table th {background-color: #104E8B; color: #FFF; font-weight: bold;} </style> <table class="tableizer-table"> <tr class="tableizer-firstrow"><th>Cla </th><th> Nº </th><th> Driver </th><th> Km/h </th></tr> <tr><td>1</td><td>15 </td><td>Sergio Pérez</td><td>328.7</td></tr> <tr><td>2</td><td>14 </td><td>Kamui Kobayashi</td><td>327.1</td></tr> <tr><td>3</td><td>23 </td><td>N.Karthikeyan</td><td>324.8</td></tr> <tr><td>4</td><td>11 </td><td>Paul Di Resta</td><td>323.6</td></tr> <tr><td>5</td><td>21 </td><td>Vitaly Petrov</td><td>323.5</td></tr> <tr><td>6</td><td>20 </td><td>H.Kovalainen</td><td>323.5</td></tr> <tr><td>7</td><td>16 </td><td>Daniel Ricciardo</td><td>322.8</td></tr> <tr><td>8</td><td>17 </td><td>Jean-Eric Vergne</td><td>322.8</td></tr> <tr><td>9</td><td>9 </td><td>Kimi Räikkönen</td><td>322.4</td></tr> <tr><td>10</td><td>12 </td><td>Nico Hülkenberg</td><td>322.1</td></tr> <tr><td>11</td><td>10 </td><td>Romain Grosjean</td><td>322.0</td></tr> <tr><td>12</td><td>3 </td><td>Jenson Button</td><td>320.8</td></tr> <tr><td>13</td><td>4 </td><td>Lewis Hamilton</td><td>320.7</td></tr> <tr><td>14</td><td>22 </td><td>Pedro de la Rosa</td><td>320.3</td></tr> <tr><td>15</td><td>6 </td><td>Felipe Massa</td><td>320.3</td></tr> <tr><td>16</td><td>5 </td><td>Fernando Alonso</td><td>319.7</td></tr> <tr><td>17</td><td>18 </td><td>Pastor Maldonado</td><td>319.1</td></tr> <tr><td>18</td><td>25 </td><td>Charles Pic</td><td>319.1</td></tr> <tr><td>19</td><td>19 </td><td>Bruno Senna</td><td>318.9</td></tr> <tr><td>20</td><td>7 </td><td>M.Schumacher</td><td>317.4</td></tr> <tr><td>21</td><td>8 </td><td>Nico Rosberg</td><td>317.0</td></tr> <tr><td>22</td><td>1 </td><td>Sebastian Vettel</td><td>316.8</td></tr> <tr><td>23</td><td>2 </td><td>Mark Webber</td><td>316.5</td></tr> <tr><td>24</td><td>24 </td><td>Timo Glock</td><td>316.4</td></tr></table>
I think they all get some sort of psychological problem when put on the right rear, I don't think there was actually anything wrong with the 2nd stop, they just thought there was because it was the right rear and they've had so many problems with that particular wheel they now expect it, still better to lose a second in the pits getting it right than getting it wrong,. A good win for Hamilton, he's deserved it for some great drives early in the season when his car hasn't felt right and he drove through them to score valuable points, he's added maturity and it seems he has decided that he'd rather win the WDC than a race
I'm pleased to read this from a proper F1 fan. People switching over because Hamilton (or any other driver) is doing well is simply beyond me. In fact, I find it rather sad that such negative passion can dominate one's personality. Perhaps my perspective is skewed from personal involvement, but I have never understood this sort of negativity.
I think we should remember that McLaren's recent 'reshuffling' of personnel was as a consequence of repeated problems at the left rear. It seems likely to me that the weakness stems not from personnel, so much as the mechanical mismatching of metals: aluminium and titanium are not a good match…
After looking at the race again it looked like Lewis allowed Seb to get ahead and try to run off into the distance. Out of Lewis, Alonso and Seb, for me it looked like Seb was pushing harder than the other 2 (almost touching the grass before the wall of champions every time, riding every curb and even losing the back end a few times) Lewis and Alonso seemed to be at 90% for the first 10 laps and then they increased the tempo towards the end before the first stop. I believe McLaren set up Lewis for a race pace rather than a Qualifying pace and probably his reason why he was surprised to be so high up. Seb even after qualifying looked like he doubt he was going to win this race compared with what his emotions were like in Bahrain which were far happier. He also seemed surprised that he out qualified everybody else by 3 tenths and it did look the case as the race pace wasn't really there in the car compared with the McLaren and Ferrari. Lewis/McLaren have learned something about these Pirelli's, maybe not as well as Sauber and Lotus but he was cruising at the end when he knew he had a big enough gap to seal the win, credit though when compared to his horror show last season. Ferrari ****ed up simple as, they were marking Seb and it cost them 2nd place where Seb might of still finished 4th behind Grojsean, maybe even 5th behind Perez and Alonso would of been leading still. The McLaren in Lewis' hands is still for me slightly ahead of the Ferrari's and Red Bull, but all 3 look equal in qualifying trim. Tight tight tight! Be interesting to see who wins Valencia, both Seb and Alonso are quite strong there. If McLaren were smart like RBR last year, they should back Lewis as number one....now! Ferrari have got the car sorted and they have been behind Alonso the whole way and at Ferrari's pace of development they might have the best car sooner than first thought. Seb looks to be getting closer to the consistency of Lewis and Alonso now and with the car still being chopped and changed, they will soon nail it sooner that later, being 3 points behind the most consistent guy this year is not too shabby.
So - the best car doesn't win again. Possibly the best driver did though? Interesting data on those fastest laps- naturally near the end. Most done by Massa & Vettel. Chasing points? I'm saddened (again) that it is all down to tyre strategy.
it is rather odd - earlier with the Merc pairing I'd have to say their effort seemed to revolve around Schuey. Recently its switched - Rosberg gets everything working - Schuey has problem after problem. More than just luck?
