Official bid made for Graham

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marcusblackcat said:
Re (b) - what he did was showed his allegiance to a club he supported - he didn't slag us off, he simply said Sunderland would be the last club he'd support as he's a black and white - I have no problem as any of us would say the same - is Martin O'Neill asking him to Support Sunderland or play for us?

I agree he's average but if he signs I will back him 100% as it is detriment not only to him but to Sunderland if we get on his back for the fact that he is a geordie - Where's NMG by the way - his comments on here will be worth the signing alone!!
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Its all a question of what you believe in. I believe in signing players that dont think we are ****e on their boots? I'm not asking them to love us or even like us but I do draw the line at ones who despise us? I wont be paying my hard earned lolly in order to pay for a twat who ****ing hates us, especially when season card renewal date comes round thats for certain.

Thats how badly I am taking this potential signing.
 
CestriaO'Neill said:
Lads. If I was ever interviewed and asked what I thought of noocarsel I'd be extremely rude and disrespectful towards them as I detest that football club.

Then again, if they then wanted to sign me I'd fully expect their fans to give me dogs abuse and be up in arms about it too.

Its only my thoughts and if the rest of the Sunderland fans want to welcome him and his true feelings about us they can do, just dont expect me to join in the celebrations. When his 'Lee Clark' moment comes and it will , I wont say told you so, I'll be too depressed to react.

This is a huge low point for me as I wanted O'Neill to prosper here not fall on his sword in this completely avoidable fashion.

Us signing black and white bastards just doesnt work. Why cant we learn.
Its a blow without a doubt.
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Don Hutchison is the only one that has isn't he?

Edit: IN recent memory anyway
 
CestriaO'Neill said:
What can I say :o

It's Mon decision. I just hope it all doesn't blow up in his face.

This has all the potential of a total disaster written all over it to me.
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Couldnt agree more Cest,and heres me thinking MON had a understanding with our grass roots support, This clearly shows he does not.
 
CestriaO'Neill said:
Its all a question of what you believe in. I believe in signing players that dont think we are ****e on their boots? I'm not asking them to love us or even like us but I do draw the line at ones who despise us? I wont be paying my hard earned lolly in order to pay for a twat who ****ing hates us, especially when season card renewal date comes round thats for certain.

Thats how badly I am taking this potential signing.
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I know mate - but the interview was light hearted and he really only said what any of us would say about Newcastle - but then if Newcastle offered us a job the same as the one we're doing on 3 times the money we'd jump at it (I certainly would).

I get your point but regardless of how little I want him here, I will back him if he signs for our club
 
The m'on effect said:
Cest, lets say he never did that interview and actually supports leyton orient.

How would you feel about it then?
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Would sign him not a problem. Its not his ability I am questioning as I have always rated the lad even when he was at Watford. His b&w affiliations were known to me way back then and I would have lived with it as he like Johnson, was actually more Boro than anything else (he was there from 12 years old too) but when he decides to put his dislike of us in writing he, imo, made the decison that means he should NEVER be considered to play for us.


He could have given any answer to who would be his second team to follow but instead chose that moment to express a atred for us? Why any self respecting SAFC fan wouldn now think that just something said 'in jest' or him merely 'having a laugh' is totally beyond me. Maybe those same fans think that Lee Clark wearing a SMB t-shirt at a wembley final of the mags, when he was still a SUNDERLAND player, was acceptable too? I didnt and I dont want this b&w twat either now.
 
marcusblackcat said:
I know mate - but the interview was light hearted and he really only said what any of us would say about Newcastle - but then if Newcastle offered us a job the same as the one we're doing on 3 times the money we'd jump at it (I certainly would).

I get your point but regardless of how little I want him here, I will back him if he signs for our club
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Of course you or I would have said the same AND both of us would take £40k per week from them and would accept the job but my whole point is we should not even be offering the ****er a job after saying that. I just fail to grasp the whole Sunderland fans apathy about this.

Its a situation just waiting to blow up in our faces.
 
marcusblackcat said:
Don Hutchison is the only one that has isn't he?

Edit: IN recent memory anyway
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If you were at the game he scored agains the mags mate you could see he was no newcastle supporter at all. He went ****ing mental and celebrated with the red & whites that day.

I could see, like chopra, clark before him, this twat purposely ****ing up in a derby or making an obscene gesture/stunt that wont help anyone.
 
biffa1965 said:
Couldnt agree more Cest,and heres me thinking MON had a understanding with our grass roots support, This clearly shows he does not.
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This signing potentially is a massive wedge between fans and manager imo that just didnt need to be placed there.

I hope I am wrong but its a massive error of judgement on Mon part for me. Massive error.
 
CestriaO'Neill said:
Would sign him not a problem. Its not his ability I am questioning as I have always rated the lad even when he was at Watford. His b&w affiliations were known to me way back then and I would have lived with it as he like Johnson, was actually more Boro than anything else (he was there from 12 eyars old too) but when he decides to put his dislike of us in writing he, imo, made the decison that means he should NEVER be considered to play for us.


I take your point and agree that this could put mon on dodgy ground with a large portion of supporters if it goes tits up, suppose its a waiting game now, still rather get bent mind!





He could have given any answer to who would be his second team to follow but instead chose that moment to express a atred for us? Why any self respecting SAFC fan wouldn now think that just something said 'in jest' or him merely 'having a laugh' is totally beyond me. Maybe those same fans think that Lee Clark wearing a SMB t-shirt at a wembley final of the mags, when he was still a SUNDERLAND player, was acceptable too? I didnt and I dont want this b&w twat either now.
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Dont know how that happened
 
I want no player here who has slagged us off. I would have bent back now if he stays fit and does not b****r off next January, arshavin might come here. And Pep guardiola has gone to Bayern so another exellent manager gets away!.
 
monty987 said:
I want no player here who has slagged us off. I would have bent back now if he stays fit and does not b****r off next January, arshavin might come here. And Pep guardiola has gone to Bayern so another exellent manager gets away!.
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I agree with you about Graham and Bent, but were you seriously just implying that Pep Guardiola might have been a realistic option for us to replace O'Neill?!?
 
CestriaO'Neill said:
If you were at the game he scored agains the mags mate you could see he was no newcastle supporter at all. He went ****ing mental and celebrated with the red & whites that day.

I could see, like chopra, clark before him, this twat purposely ****ing up in a derby or making an obscene gesture/stunt that wont help anyone.
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I was there mate - he reacted to the barracking he got from the Mags because he played for us even though he supported them - but he definitely watched them as a boy!

I have no problem with Martin O'Neill signing him and am apathetic towards Graham - light hearted stuff is exactle that and that is what the interview was (IMO) we'll just have to agree to disagree mate! I certainly won't think any worse of Martion O'Neill for signing him
 
monty987 said:
I want no player here who has slagged us off. I would have bent back now if he stays fit and does not b****r off next January, arshavin might come here. And Pep guardiola has gone to Bayern so another exellent manager gets away!.
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Lol <laugh>
 
CestriaO'Neill said:
Show me any interviews where Fletcher slagged Sunderland off mate?

Danny Graham coming here will spell the beginning of the end for Mon imo and I find that completely and utterly depressing. Just wait till he cries off in the derby game, or worse still ****s up a goal so he doesn't score against his boyhood club and watch the fans turn on him. Mon will protect him and the crowd will turn on him too.

This black-and-white twat certainly will NOT be getting my support at all. Lee Clark did and **** on every single one of us. I'm not making that mistake again.

I haven't felt this gutted over a player coming here in 39 years. Disaster.
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Sorry Cest, but this is just wrong in my eyes. We must support every player that comes here because our manager believes in him and it is for the good of the club that we do this.

About Lee Clark, like I have already said, he was fantastic for us, absolutely brilliant and always gave 110% when he put a red and white top on. My mate who was also there that day he had the SMB top on, said he never really knew about it, as it was almost forced on him you could say, when he was flanked by a mob of black and whites. You could say he was set up, since then he has apologised for that and says it is a regret of his.
 
monty987 said:
I want no player here who has slagged us off. I would have bent back now if he stays fit and does not b****r off next January, arshavin might come here. And Pep guardiola has gone to Bayern so another exellent manager gets away!.
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I think Ellis contacted Guardiola about being MON's Number 2 but he advised he didn't want such a high pressure job and that he wasn't interested in the money we were offering - it was far too much
 
Reet bunch of fickle fookers...

He;s an ok player, nowt special ,but can add to the squad, as compaired to Campbell etc...



So i see the main voice in rejection to this is Cest..(hi gobshite, how ya doing mate).

But let's look at it another way, Cest also rejects Sess as a striker (i agree on this one) so we need more (please not the usual clammer for Wickham ffs) so this move for those against it, is based purely on his mag roots?
 
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