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Official 2011 Santander Gran Premio de España Chat

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by El_Bando, May 9, 2011.

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    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    And Red Bull, and Mercedes. And of course Renault, who I think will be hit hardest by this. They had incredible traction out of slow corners which I believe was thanks to their forward blowing exhausts, that will of course be nullified somewhat now. This seems to sting everyone but Ferrari.
     
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    and HRT and Virgin. FIA... ffffffffVirgin international assistance.
     
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    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure we'd all assist a Virgin if she was in need of it. <monster>
     
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    I do not think Ferrari will be the only team to gain an advantage out of this, I think Mclaren will as well.
     
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    What happens if by sunday we see Red Bull with a 2 second advantage? re-introduce it again <laugh>
     
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    They will ban flexi-wings, and then if that does not slow them down they might ban Adrian Newey for being a movable aerodynamic device
     
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    Give Adrian Newey Bernie's job and vice versa...
     
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    Well in Turkish Practice they were running the special engine mapping which you could hear when the drivers were off-throttle, but it wasn't used after practice. I imagine they were planning to bring that to Spain, but now will be unable to.

    I trust they will still have other bits tested from Turkey, like the new exhaust, floor and diffuser - after all, that is still a key part to the downforce this year. Until Ferrari confirmed today, I didn't know they were bringing new front and rear wings. Either they are just small changes (e.g. tiny endplate modification) or they are something bigger, like hopefully a flexible wing :D
     
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    Cheers, I'll keep an eye (and ear... just in case) out on Friday to see what i can see thats new.
     
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    JA is blogging that Mike Gascoyne reckons the Lotus updates for Spain will be worth a second per lap.
     
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    I've mentioned that before, I'd really like them to pull it off, it really would stick them right in the mix in the midfield, they're also hoping it'll bring extra gains to qualifying, as they've been struggling to get heat into the tyres for 3 lap quali runs.
     
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    Yes I know this is from the BBC gossip column, but....

     
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    You I think I posted about this on the Turkey thread, Kovalainen reckons they will gain a second a lap in performance, its supposed to be a big upgrade to the rear end, so it could be a blown diffuser. Or maybe they've incorporated the Renault/Red Bull KERS unit?[/QUOTE]"]have indeed. I must have ignored it because it sounded so unlikely. :)

    It'd certainly leave the Cosworth teams looking forlorn. I must admit, I'm still a bit sceptical about Lotus being able to take on the midfield seriously, not that I wouldn't love to see it.
     
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    BLS - well I did raise the subject a few days ago !!
     
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    Must have missed it, its good news if its true...


    Are you "La Vanguardia" <laugh>

    Been brought up before but here again: McLaren takes 10-12 upgrades to Spain
     
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  17. Forza Bianchi

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    Quantity is not important, I doubt any of these updates are significant (apart from maybe a special engine mapping).

    My biased prediction: Watch out for Ferrari!
     
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    Well, well done to the circuit owners/race organisers for being aware that they're circuit doesn't encourage overtaking, its nice to see they are thinking about it, although I hope DRS, KERS and the tyres don't disguise the issue too much!

    I'd love to see Lotus in the midfield, they've certainly established themselves as the best of the new teams, and currently lead Williams in the WCC, so I'd like to see them begin to make an impression on Force India too.
     
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    As Matt Goss says, some of the updates "will be recognisable from the outside and some won't."

    please log in to view this image
     
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    Love it!
     
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