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Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by TheOXOCube:5pur2, Feb 23, 2015.

  1. lazarus20000

    lazarus20000 Well-Known Member

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    Classy quote though.
     
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  2. Smirnoffpriest

    Smirnoffpriest Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes it's easier to ignore him that to be pulled down to his level - though quite often it's easier for me to give advice than to follow it!
     
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  3. goonercymraeg

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    It is very easy for people to talk about benefit scroungers when you see the amount of "poverty porn" in the media nowadays.I had the misfortune to watch a couple of episodes of the last series of Benefits Street on Channel 4.One of the "benefit scroungers" filmed in this series was a woman who had a son who was severely brain damaged,he was unable to walk,talk.feed himself he was obviously incontinent.It was so sad to see this poor boy.His mother was his full time carer as he obviously needed 24hr care.All the way through the series the mother was described as a "benefits mum".I bet she would have preferred to have a healthy son than live on benefits
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    As much as I'd like to, it's hard to criticise British TV today, considering the alternative that the US has just thrown up.
    Live murder, followed by killer's point-of-view updates via social media? Er, pass?
     
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  5. Smirnoffpriest

    Smirnoffpriest Well-Known Member

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    Shh I'm sure the daily mail own Channel 5 and I don't want you to give them ideas!
     
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  6. PleaseNotPoll

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    They'd probably call it Benefits Killer.
     
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  7. Smirnoffpriest

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    With a follow up series called immigrant benefits killers and the hijab of death!
     
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  8. afcftw

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    <laugh>
     
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  9. afcftw

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    Just read an article about E-Cigarettes/Vapes on the BBC about how the welsh and English have taken a different stance to them. With England seeing them as a positive way to reduce smoking and wales wanting to ban them being used in public like they were normal cigarettes.

    With several individual companies banning there use, I wondered what the views are of you lot?

    Personally I think they are a great idea. I've seen people who smoked 20+ a day quit using an e-cig and many of my friends have used them as a way of stopping smoking.

    I also have an issue with government trying to step into our lives and tell us what we can and can't do when it has no bloody effect on anyone!

    So what do you think? Are they a good thing? Should they be available on the NHS for smokers? Should they be banned like tobacco smoking is?
     
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  11. Smirnoffpriest

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  12. Smirnoffpriest

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    My personal opinion is that the smoking ban was very good, and lots of smokers I know have given up or significantly reduced the amount they smoke, with a lot less casual smoking among people as I know.

    However I am a bit worried by plans to outlaw smoking in personal cars and out in the open. And while I can see the reasons to ban ecigarettes in the same places as cigarettes, to stop normalising any type of smoking, I do think this is a dangerous route as well. There is little passive smoking risk so imo you should be able to smoke them in most places. Though I would legislate that the strength of the ecigarettes 'refill' should be set at a max strength so that people can't just mix in as much nicotine as they want.

    I have seen people who smoke ecigarettes with no indication of giving up or reducing the dosage, so there is that risk of just replacing cigarettes instead of giving up.
     
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  13. afcftw

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    Yeah there is the risk it just becomes the new addiction. But at least it's one that is faaaaar healthier than smoking tobacco!

    I would carefully look at the nicotine levels though to make sure they aren't at unnecessarily high levels.
     
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  14. Tiddler

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    You are a cry baby who when loses an argument reverts to type - that of the hypocrite.

    I'll repeat my message again as I love the thought of you crying in a corner about the nasty internet poster daring to disagree with your infantile political ramblings...

    Your lot lost the last election because more of the public agree with the Tories than they do the socialists.

    You will lose the next election as well because it looks like a radical lefty extremist will be leading your party further away from what society really wants. By society, I mean that part of the voting population that actually contribute, not the work shy scroungers.

    Have a nice day :)
     
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  15. Tiddler

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    So, because you can give an example of someone worthy of assistance (which I have clearly supported if you bother to read back) you want us to believe that there are no benefit scroungers?

    Not very smart are you?

    It is bullshit like this, talk of stopping immigration etc that show you and your 'chums' up for what you are. Unable to defend your political view other than to make up crap, attribute it to those that oppose your views and repeat it ad infinitum until other half wits (as many unemployed/unemployable scroungers are) pick up on it and accept it as fact.

    #socialistsheeple
     
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  16. Smirnoffpriest

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    Anyway, interesting interview of yvette cooper by jon snow on last night, though i only caught a bit of it. She did say we should stand up against the Tories, even though she abstained on lots... ohh and now its a vote winner shes saying the iraq war is a mistake so we should apologise but not apologise in the eay corbyn wants, as that would be wrong, we should apologise in a new and unspecified way...
     
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  17. Smirnoffpriest

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    For what its worth i agree with you<ok>
     
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  18. BrunelGooner

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    Bollocks. Each time I have argued with you, I have always provided evidence from senior figures of authority or experts who are educated in their fields to support my point of view.

    You on the other hand seem determined to propagate the government's narrative.

    Crying? <laugh> About what? About an anonymous person whom I do not know trying to belittle me? I think you have an overactive imagination.

    This isn't correct.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-tory-election-win-study-finds-10397821.html

    Corbyn has had ample support from lots of different people. The Labour leadership polls all show that he is winning comfortably ahead of the likes of Liz Kendall, Yvette Cooper and Andy Burnham, who all seem to be pro-establishment.

    He will actually challenge the austerity narrative and has good proposals which can be funded through scrapping worthless projects and recouping the billions upon billions of pounds the country have lost through tax dodging and offshore accounts.
     
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  19. Tiddler

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    "He will actually challenge the austerity narrative and has good proposals which can be funded through scrapping worthless projects and recouping the billions upon billions of pounds the country have lost through tax dodging and offshore accounts."

    I am in favour of targeting tax dodgers and restricting loopholes used via offshore accounts. How about we put more effort into catching benefit cheats and imposing more rigorous means tests for all claimants?
     
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  20. BrunelGooner

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    But in the grand scheme of things, benefit fraud isn't anywhere near as big an issue as loads of other problems which we need to prioritise ahead of that.

    There is £1.7bn of benefit fraud. Relatively, that is peanuts. It shouldn't be top of the agenda.
     
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