to totally contradict the abuse swearing bit i alluded to **** off i havent mentioned nani once ala nohlman
Where did you read these allegations of British soldiers being involved? As I said before, any source will do.
Why would it have no ending? Where are these records, then? There's nothing to suggest that it ever happened. Of course the funding matters. If a study is backed by a vile organisation like that one, then any findings are immediately doubtful. You're taking the word of a neo-Nazi air-traffic controller over the guy that admitted to being in charge of the camp where thousands of people were killed. One version is backed up by evidence, including the confession of the guy that ran the place, various people that were at the camp, various pieces of paperwork and aerial photographs of mass graves, whereas the other is backed up by a bloke who denies the Holocaust ever took place. You're believing what you want to believe. Richard Krege. Where is his evidence? He's made a claim, but where is this study? Have you seen it? You are a Holocaust denier! What figure do you accept, then? Show me a link, then. Why are you avoiding showing your source? No, you repeatedly said that it wasn't stoning and dodged the question of what it was, choosing to ask me what I thought it was, instead. 122 UN General Assembly member countries do, 71 don't. Are you taking the UN to be the standard to go by now then, as they set up the modern Israel? It's massively relevant to the issue. If someone is incorrectly incarcerated, then they can be released. If someone is incorrectly put to death, then it's irreversible. It has been. Where the death penalty applies, the murder rate tends to be higher. A number of witnesses, not jurors, have suggested that they were pushed into testimony by the police, but they didn't say this under oath and refused to do so at one of the reviews of the case, despite actually being at the courthouse. There's been multiple reports that 7 of the 9 witnesses recanted their statements, but it appears to be only 2 that have, with 5 making minor changes and the total number of witnesses is actually around 30. And why is that a bad thing? Over time we may find out more answers to more questions. That has to be better than just saying, "I don't know", and leaving it at that. I don't think that anyone that's actually looked into abiogenesis takes it as fact, at the moment. It's the best answer that we currently have, but is far from being an established fact, like gravity or evolution are. You can be Jewish by either birth or conversion. It's an ethno-religious group. Who says that you can't be English?
You just seem to be very anti-English mate, and it's a shame, because there's enough foreigners who hate us without our own people joining in! As for Berbatov/Hernandez, are you mad?!? I like Berba, he's a class-act, but our current style is all based on pace and movement, something Berba's not famed for. Have you not noticed that people have stopped saying "This is by no means a great United team, but they get the job done", which we heard time and again? That's because our football is far quicker, more fluid and more entertaining. Berba has his place, but not in the starting XI at the moment.
as i said sarge read the whole quote, which was Dev I dont know if you can shed light from during your time, but there are cover ups and there are dismissals or 'telling offs' for offences. I know for example that there are allegations of british soldiers involved in the child sex trade in places where they are 'peacekeepers'. The accusers are 100% certain but it is difficult to prove and easier to cover up. same with drugs. so more of a question wouldnt you agree? anyhoo http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3686173.stm Richard Monk, is a respected British policeman and former Deputy Commissioner of the Devon and Cornwall Police. He was head of the IPTF in Bosnia for two years from 1998. He says "I knew of one case where a 14 year old girl was actually living with an international police officer. I had to set up an internal affairs branch to manage investigations against my own police officers. There was nothing more embarrassing and damaging to the work that we were trying to do." british soldiers smuggling drugs http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/68536...tish-soldiers-smuggle-heroin-from-afghanistan
If you're not going to back up your ridiculous ranting, then don't post a load of anti-Western bullshit on here every day. You're a bigot and an anti-Semitic coward, frankly. Pathetic.
yes dear there is only so may times a person can say the same thing You were getting boring, and where as I usually entertain you for my amusement, it got a bit tedious today when you have something different/relevant to say i will respond ps youre lazy too
I was getting boring?! I guess that your constant anti-Western, anti-Jewish, pro-Islamic bullshit isn't in the least bit trying though, eh? You're full of ****, frankly. Stop believing in tired extremism and come back to the present, you relic.
Where in the BBC link does it say british soldiers were involved? and why did you not state the quote you put below it didn't come from that source? The quote was from here : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/correspondent/2043794.stm and mentions American and German soldiers but no mention of British troops. It was a British IPTF officer investigating but thats it. You are quoting out of context!
I respond to your threads as allowing them to stand unopposed might result in people actually believing that your crap is true. It's extremism to back every single thing in the media that you can spin to be anti-US, anti-Jew, anti-UK and anti-Western. You've obviously been influenced by a some extremely dishonest people and your faith taints everything. I pity you, to be honest.
And he was part of the International Police Task Force. It's multi-national, as the name suggests and those serving under him would've been from various countries.
Natasha Walter Saturday July 5, 2003 The Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk Imagine that half a dozen German women had just claimed they had been gang-raped by British soldiers who were stationed in their country on exercise. Imagine that even when the women had reported the rapes the soldiers had been allowed to fly home and the incident was never investigated. Imagine that a few months later another such incident took place. If such accusations were being made against British soldiers by European women, and if the women's stories were backed up by hospital and police records and compelling testimony from the traumatised young women, then the media would have gone into a frenzy - demanding to know how British soldiers could go on the rampage, and why officers were covering up for them. Far from just a few cases, we are currently seeing hundreds of women coming forward to claim that they have been raped by British soldiers. Six hundred and fifty women who say that they were raped over the past 30 years - the most recent incident took place last year - have just been granted legal aid to bring a case for compensation against the British army. But these women aren't from Europe; they come from pastoralist communities in the highlands of Kenya. For the past 50 years their land has been used by thousands of British soldiers who go out to Africa for a few weeks or months at a time to practise desert and mountain warfare. The mere fact that they are in Africa seems to have ensured that these women's claims have sparked little fury in comparison to what would have occurred if the same had happened on any other continent. A racist view that black women do not have the same rights or the same sensibilities as other women still seems to influence us in Britain, far more than we like to admit. But it shouldn't need to be stated that the trauma these women have suffered goes just as deep as it would with any other women in any other part of the world. I went out to Kenya when the first women began to put their claims to a British solicitor, and although I spoke only to a small number of them, I will never forget their tales of emotional and physical pain. If we do allow ourselves to take these allegations seriously, then they must change the way we look at the British army. When I first reported on the women's claims for this newspaper back in March, the armed forces were just going into action in Iraq. From that moment on, we have faced a barrage of exhortation from politicians and the media to get behind our boys. In contrast to the troops of other countries, we are told, British soldiers are always disciplined, and always respectful towards local people. We have been shown charming pictures of British soldiers giving sweets to children and putting themselves at risk by going around without their helmets. Their bravery, we are told, is matched only by their gentlemanly behaviour. Are we allowing this spurt of patriotism to blind us to the gravity of the accusations coming out of Kenya? Their nature and number suggest that rapes were not simply being committed by a few soldiers going on a brutal spree for a few days. More than half of the alleged attacks were gang rapes, and many of them were carried out in a systematic manner by groups of soldiers hunting down women at watering holes or in pasture grounds. I spoke to one woman who said that she was caught up in an attack in which at least 12 soldiers raped six women. One woman told me of another incident in which two soldiers raped her in turn, while another soldier looked on silently, holding the others' guns. If these rapes did go on for so long and in such numbers, then the whole scandal could not have continued without officers deliberately turning a blind eye. Documentary evidence of reports made to army officers in Kenya is now coming to light, including letters written by local chiefs and local government officers that are dated as far back as 1977. I have spoken to Masai chiefs who attended a meeting with senior army officers in 1983 at which the rapes were discussed and the officers promised to take steps to prevent them; I have also spoken to a Kenyan man who remembered reporting a rape as recently as 1998 to a major at a British army camp. No action, however, was ever taken to investigate or discipline any soldiers. The suggestion that a culture of impunity reached throughout the army from the bottom to the very top can be put into the wider context of the history of the British army in Kenya. Only now is the real story being told of the atrocities carried out by the British against fighters for Kenyan independence in the Mau Mau uprising of the 1950s. Although full investigations have, up to now, been thwarted by Kenyan and British authorities, veterans of that struggle are now preparing to launch their own action for compensation against the British government. Their allegations against British authorities include tales of starvation, beatings, forced labour, torture, and also claims by Kikuyu women that they were systematically raped by British soldiers as punishment for their people's involvement in the independence uprising. The legacy of this brutal colonialism clearly infects the behaviour of the British army in Kenya to this day. If you are simply incredulous at the very idea that the British soldiers could still get away with raping Kenyan women without immediate disciplinary action being taken, you might want to consider other aspects of the way the army behaved while on exercise in these areas. Although the area that I visited is actually owned by the Masai people, the British army never paid them directly (money went instead to the Kenyan government) for the privilege of taking over part of their precious grazing land every year, but they would treat the land as if it were their own. Sometimes they would divert the water supply from local settlements for the army camps, so that Kenyan children went thirsty while British soldiers drank freely. And then there is the fact that for decades these soldiers left their unexploded ordnance on grazing grounds so that ordinary people, including children, could stumble on them and be maimed and even killed. A £4.5m compensation settlement was winkled out of the Ministry of Defence only last year for those people who were injured or bereaved in such incidents, when at last our government realised that it could not get away with allowing black children to be blown up by its bombs in peacetime. Amnesty International has now called for an independent inquiry to be held into these hundreds of allegations of rape. Indeed, although the Ministry of Defence has recently sent a few members of the Royal Military Police to start an investigation, a more public and more accountable inquiry is essential. The scale and gravity of these alleged crimes suggest that this goes way beyond the wild behaviour of a few soldiers. As one of the Kenyan women I met said to me of the men who raped her: "They have brought shame on all the British people." http://www.guardian.co.uk/kenya/story/0,12689,992066,00.html
The case that you've just posted? That's from 2003. What happened to the whole thing in the last 8 years? Including Brits? I don't know. It doesn't say. You're making an assertion without any evidence. Why doesn't that surprise me?
