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Obama = israels biatch

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by thefanwithnoname, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    WRONG.

    So very very wrong.

    Religion created the need for war. Not the only need but one of the biggest reason we have gone to war over the centuries. Science didnt create that need for war, it just allowed mankind to express its destructive capabilities on a much grander scale.
     
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  2. UIR - Kagawa Powa

    UIR - Kagawa Powa New Member

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    You can have faith and not believe in god. You can have faith in anything or anyone.
     
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  3. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
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    Faith is just another word for belief without evidence.
    What else do people just accept as true, without any real reasoning?

    "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil—that takes religion." Steve Weinberg.
     
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    Religion didn't create the need for war, but it created a wonderful justification for it when there isn't a real one.
     
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  5. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    I would say it did.

    It created differences we didnt actually have which in turn created fear which turned to hate and then to conflict. Not in all cases of course but thats the basic reason for religious war.
     
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  6. Sam Axe

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    Why can no one see that religion and science can be EITHER divisive or unifying. Millions of people practice their faith in peace and never resort to violence or other evil acts, yet all people focus on is the minority who use it negatively.
     
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  7. Kyle?

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    in about 90% of cases in the past, religion was the basis of war, with some fighting, what they would try and justify "a holy war". I remember reading that in WW2, apparently a US slogan was

    "We'll win, because god's on our side"

    This was fatuous and i consider it ridiculous, but it justifies my point. These days though, greed is the basis of war.
     
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  8. Sam Axe

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    Again this was not religion but man's use of religion for their propaganda. There IS a difference.
     
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    fear by the media, to a religion that are not accustomed to
    people can be scared by that, like post-9/11 there was a show about peoples reactions to Muslim's practicing their faith in public places



    and with that i'm ****ing off to bed :emoticon-0113-sleep
     
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  10. Kyle?

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    The war started because of religion. Well, last time i checked, Judaism was classified a religion anyway.
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    are you telling me that things like biogenesis dont ask more questions than provide answers?
    or evolution for that matter?
     
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    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I dont accept that.

    proof is vital. its whether some accept it

    some accept the sky is blue
    others say its a reflection that makes it appear blue
     
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  13. Sam Axe

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    The war started because people used religion as an excuse to justify their actions. If religion did not involve people there would be no problem and this debate would not exist.

    Blaming religion is just convenient but in reality Man is to blame for the problems in the world past and present.
     
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  14. Kyle?

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    And man created religion.
     
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  15. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    It sure does.

    I bet you can guess the difference though..... with science we ask questions and then search for the answers. With religion the answer is final before you even ask the question.
     
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  16. thefanwithnoname

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    so like science then. where is the 'evidence' for biogenesis?
    yet because scientists spout it it must be true?
     
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  17. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Yep, the biggest problem of all. Well that and money.
     
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  18. Sam Axe

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    As well as most things in existence.
     
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  19. UIR - Kagawa Powa

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    Hence man is the real supreme being here.
     
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  20. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Not true at all

    99.9% of war hav nothing to do with religion, but religion gets the bad name

    were the crusades about religion? or money/wealth/power
    did muslim fight christian? or did arab muslim/christian/jew defend their homes?

    are all palestinians muslim? or was yasser arafats wife a jew?

    was tariq aziz a muslim or in fact a christian? (saddams right hand man that is)

    I would ask for any war to be looked into and religion was not the cause

    are afghani/pakistani/indian/british muslims not fighting the taliban?
     
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