1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

o/t : Pele says Messi is 'not a great player'

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Nick HCAFC, Nov 11, 2011.

  1. Party Hull!

    Party Hull! Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    6,009
    Likes Received:
    1,653
    Is it right to bully an old man who has (well documented) erectile dysfunction?

    Tsk tsk.
     
    #21
  2. Jerel Ifil

    Jerel Ifil Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2011
    Messages:
    9,460
    Likes Received:
    119
    <ok>
     
    #22
  3. x

    x Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    9,164
    Likes Received:
    3,342
    so by definition pele says a great player cannot come from a nation that is not equipped to do well in the wc finals.

    players such as george best.

    total twaddle, mr pele.
     
    #23
  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    111,784
    Likes Received:
    76,411
    Of those ten predictions, Barmby's is about the closest to being right. :emoticon-0120-doh:
     
    #24
  5. Nick HCAFC

    Nick HCAFC Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    4,299
    Likes Received:
    1
    I think Messi's the best goalscorer I've seen but the best player would be Zidane
     
    #25
  6. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    27,122
    Likes Received:
    18,180
    This thread actually pleases me because I thought most people would be agreeing with him based on meaningless sentimentality. Loads of people in football seem obsessed by the players they grew up with, and I'm sure there are certain people who will never be convinced by a modern footballer no matter what he achieves. At the moment, Messi is probably the best player there has been. In the next 20 years there will probably be a better one. The fact is the standard of the game is increasing all the time. When you watch old clips of top players like Pele and Maradona, the player in question is good without doubt but the thing that always jumps out at me is that the defenders, and particularly goalkeepers are absolute gash. From what I can see from these clips, goalies only figured out it was easier to save shots with their hands in the mid-80s and defenders all seemed to behave like Kamil Zayatte (i.e steam into every tackle and go flying the past the attacker looking completely silly).

    I watch the way James Chester defends now and I think if he played 40 years ago he would be thought of as a legend, the composure in tackling he shows which isn't so special in the modern game, seemed to be so rare in times of old that attackers could just do what they want. I think this has a lot to do with why so many fans think every striker should score 20 goals, because that genuinely was the case in years gone by.

    One thing I would grant to the oldern days of football though, it was more entertaining.
     
    #26

  7. Dean24

    Dean24 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    701
    Likes Received:
    0
    Pele was a fantastic footballer but as a human being he leaves a lot to be desired.
     
    #27
  8. Hull City AFC (HCHKR)

    Hull City AFC (HCHKR) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    2,224
    Likes Received:
    736
    And I thought Lawro was bad at making predictions....
     
    #28
  9. MattTheTiger

    MattTheTiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,660
    Likes Received:
    120
    Not a patch on Junior Lewis.
     
    #29
  10. Nick HCAFC

    Nick HCAFC Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    4,299
    Likes Received:
    1
    Brabin was Pele (in his own mind)
     
    #30
  11. HHH

    HHH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,944
    Likes Received:
    5,216
    I always loved this...

    [video=youtube;e4fzeK3SQa4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4fzeK3SQa4[/video]
     
    #31
  12. MattTheTiger

    MattTheTiger Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    1,660
    Likes Received:
    120
    This was always better though

    [video=youtube;fgrjRA7djeQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgrjRA7djeQ[/video]
     
    #32
  13. HHH

    HHH Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    6,944
    Likes Received:
    5,216
    Could have a point there. But then there was always this...

    [video=youtube;fbOB6MklvtU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbOB6MklvtU&feature=related[/video]
     
    #33

Share This Page