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O/T Mackay sucks it up

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  1. incredihull

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    Mackey took the payoff, so he was clear to apply for WBA
     
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  2. HHH

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  3. PLT

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    I don't know Vincent, why did you?
     
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  4. Obadiah

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    Because he trusted Malky and the rest to spend his money wisely. He subsequently found out they hadn't and, if the reports at the time of the sacking were correct, spent money they weren't entitled to.

    I think there may be two issues here that get mixed up, the red shirts and the sacking of MacKay.
     
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  5. PLT

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    I'm not mixing the two up. I believe football should be like any other business and owners should take more responsibility. They should either defer the decisions to a chief exec type or if they have the nouse they should make financial decisions themselves. They shouldn't let the manager just have whoever he wants with a blank chequebook and then complain when he spends a lot.

    Sven overspent at Leicester, Hughes overspent at Man City and QPR. When we were the moneybags of Division 3 both Little and Molby overspent. There's a theme here. If the money is there the manager will spend it, it'd be daft not to. You can't penalise a manager for spending money you made available. If you don't want him to spend it don't give him it.

    Managers should get a budget and a footballing target based on that and they should be judged against whether they achieve it or not. Even if a manager makes a mistake on one or two signings. Proschwitz anyone? If he achieves the overall aim within the agreed budget then he's succeeded.

    I don't know the details of them spending any money they weren't entitled to, so I'd appreciate if anyone can explain that to me further, but IMO it's incredibly weak for a business owner to complain that someone else spent his money without them knowing. Mackay had his PIN number did he?
     
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  6. Stuart Blampey

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    Tan gave him a kitty

    Mackay overpaid massively for the donkeys he bought.

    Neither emerge with any credit.
     
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    You mentioned it twice, so I thought id comment.

    Who exactly would you expect to pay Mackays legal fees other than himself?
     
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  8. PLT

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    Usually if he was getting paid off, Cardiff would pay his legal fees. The fact he paid them himself suggests he got nothing, which is the point the article was making I think. That's what's confusing about this situation.
     
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  9. Obadiah

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    Here's the link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-50m-deals-cost-Malky-Mackay-Cardiff-job.html

    The owners of a company often give the people managing it full use of the bank account within the rules set by them. Same thing with signing contracts. Those involved in managing the company owe a duty of care to the shareholders to do so properly. Whether Tan should have trusted them in the first place is another question altogether.
     
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-50m-deals-cost-Malky-Mackay-Cardiff-job.html

    Don't know what happened to that link?
     
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  11. Obadiah

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    Wait. What? You think football should be like any other business and that owners should take more responsibility? Why? Surely by that same token, the owners should be allowed to run their business the way they see fit?
     
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    What they do currently is run it how they see fit and then blame the fans, managers, previous owners or Michael Jackson statues when it goes tits up. They make all the decisions from an uneducated position and take no responsibility for them. Well not all owners, but the mental ones anyway.

    I don't know who Cardiffs chief exec was/is but he should be signing these deals off, not the manager. If they don't have one then it should be Mackay. The manager's job is to build a team and get them playing well, which Mackay achieved by every possible measure.

    It makes no sense, you can only spend what money is made available to you. The idea that Mackay was making payments himself is just ridiculous. He spent a lot and Tan wanted an excuse to sack him. The results were good so what's the problem? He signed a **** striker from a foreign second division and didn't play him? That sounds familiar. Bruce out.
     
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