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O/t labours housing policy

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Douglas, Oct 16, 2014.

  1. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    Wrong on so many counts.. In my opinion the problem lies with the utter scale of the immigration which is off the planet compared to any other period in history.Problems also lies with the lack of assimilation and integration, where what we are witnessing now is a mosaic of separate communities that have been established based on religion and/or ethnicity..This for me is a recipe for disaster and needs to be urgently addressed.
     
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  2. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Love that some people think voting ukip will magically sort immigration. They don't even know if their own plan is even plausible. We don't have the industrial or agricultural infrastructure to leave the EU yet. Leaving the EU may give us better control of our own boarders but it takes trade prices out of our own hands. UKIP's Main Policy is joke, and the rest of them make for even more bizarre reading.
     
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  3. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Link to your claim?

    I'm all for blocking immigration apart from people who are going to bring something to the table.
    Nurses who struggle with basic English to me is ridiculous, when with a little investment indigenous people could be trained to fill any shortfalls. (But this would cost money locally that the government avoids paying.)
    I hate the excuse that immigrants are filling a skills gap.
    FFS! Train people to fill the skills gap, there's plenty of people claiming benefits that would love to be given the chance to work.
    We have people buying up the available housing who then proceed to increase rents to ridiculous money, where ordinary people on the minimum wage can't afford to pay the rent. (Unless topped up by benefits.)

    We need social housing, at a price the ordinary couple can afford.
    I would also hammer the likes of doctors who take their cheap training and disappear following the money. (Lets not forget they are on good money compared to the majority of people they treat!)
    Then we employ cheaper foreign doctors to fill the gaps they leave.

    UKIP is making the other parties realise the man on the street is worried about the influx of immigrants.
    I could never vote UKIP but I do want Labour or even the ****ing Tories to sort out immigration.
     
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  4. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Great post. Agree with every word.
     
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  5. Montysoptician

    Montysoptician Well-Known Member

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    Very good post MR <ok>
     
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  6. Charley Farley

    Charley Farley Well-Known Member

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    Hi Funk,
    You say UKIP's main policy is a joke.

    This is no doubt getting out of the EU.

    Every poll says that the majority want to leave the EU. None of the liblabcon want to leave and if you believe Cameron more fool you, he will never manage a withdrawal from the EU. He's a liar.
    The immigration problems can ALL be solved once out of the EU and along with that all these anomilies like paying child maintainence for children in other lands.

    You say their other policies are bizarre!
    Are you for or against HS2?
    UKIP are the only Party that will cancel it. It may get you to Birmingham some 20 minutes earlier but then you have to get from the HS2 Station outside Birmingham into the City, probably taking about 20 minutes or so. The majority polled all want it cancelled but only UKIP will cancel it, liblabcon will carry on with it against the wishes of the majority.

    Global warming/cooling or climate change, whatever it is today, is being used to raise taxes and is not being used to tackle CO2 increases. Windmills are useless and only work within a certain band of wind speed. Other power stations need to be kept going to cover the intermittent output from these bird choppers. Still, Cameron's Father in law does nicely from having windmills on his land. UKIP will do away with these daft green policies and will use Nuclear power as well as Fracking. By the way, Antarctic ice levels are at record levels and (in the Arctic) there are more Polar Bears than ever.

    Did you know we are signed up for Napoleonic Law? That means any EU Country can take you out of the UK and put you in prison where you are presumed guilty as opposed to Magna Carta where you are presumed innocent. If you commit an offence (maybe a traffic offence) abroad you could be taken to that Country from the UK and locked up. UKIP are the only Party against this.

    Health and safety should be a good thing but it is taken to daft extremes by the EU. UKIP will return common sense to this as opposed to liblabcon who go along with the EU and enforce everything to the letter.

    UKIP will do away with all this pc crap. Orwell called it right and 'newspeak' describes exactly what goes on.

    There are loads more UKIP policies and they all reflect what your normal citizen would call common sense. If you were to look at the UKIP policies on their website you will find lots of policies aimed at a fair, common sense, government and not the liblabcon policies where they often work against the likes of you and me.

    By the way, I have seen several studies where the estimated SAVINGS from an EU exit are £110 billion. I can't give you a link but I'm not making it up.

    UKIP say controlled immigration of about 50,000 a year is their policy but if you want 500,000 a year coming in then vote liblabcon.

    Cameron says he will negotiate concessions from the EU which will mean something like straighter bananas but he knows NOTHING can be done about free movement of people within the EU. He is misleading you.

    I'm not suprised some of you are against UKIP because ALL the mainstream media is against UKIP and you may believe the smears and lies constantly put out by them. Think Question Time for anti UKIP biased audiences. If you read the comments by readers on the newspapers (not the Guardian) you will find the vast majority are pro UKIP but the papers still promote liblabcon.

    I doubt that I can change any views of our commenters on not 606 but if you look at the policies and don't be told what to think by the main stream media you may well find UKIP is the Party that serves your interests better than liblabcon.

    To sum up, UKIP's policies are common sense, rational ones whereas liblabcon's policies are more of the same of this we are getting now.

    ****, we are 0-3 down
    Still
    Hope springs eternal....
     
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  7. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    I'm not reading that mate sorry it's match day. I want us out of the EU, but anyone with brain it would take years and a lot of money, money we don't have, to set up the infrastructure to cope with leaving the EU. It's not possible at the moment, we need to focus on the country's recovery, which in turn will put us in a better position to leave. Immigration is not my priority, working families forced to use food banks because they can't feed their kids is.
     
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