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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by C19RK73, Oct 14, 2013.

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is there any hope

Poll closed Oct 19, 2013.
  1. yes

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  2. no

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  1. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    It would be dreadful if they were found to be involved, but don't think they are..
     
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  2. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    still sitting firmly on the fence me like
     
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  3. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    You misunderstand.

    What I'm saying is that 'secret' information, you mention, could equally be sensational & case breaking or absolutely **** all.

    If the information they have released is typical then it's '**** all'.

    I just doubt that the 1000's of people, who have called in, have anything new or relevant to say.

    Having said that, I'm as open minded as ever on the subject.
     
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  4. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    I'm all for the theory of presuming innocent until proved guilty, so it's in my nature mate.
     
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  5. CyprusMackem

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    True
    As you say the new info could be nowt and it could be summit. Actually most of the "new" evidence isn't new at all. It was always there just dismissed and filed away by the Portuguese who were working off the wrong time line.
    Seems inconceivable to me the Portuguese Police would re-open the case and stress the McCanns are not involved without a major development (after all, they were prime suspects at one point). As they have asked for silence it's doubtful we will know what this is till the arrests start.
     
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  6. MrRAWhite

    MrRAWhite Well-Known Member

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    Let's all hope it is sooner rather than later, and a young girl is found alive as well..
     
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  7. CyprusMackem

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    Amen to that.
     
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  8. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    The British, and now Portuguese, police are making such a big deal of this that there must be a development soon otherwise they'll start to look a bit silly.

    It was the McCanns who insisted on the earlier sighting being used and them who released it to the press.

    The later 'Irish' sighting was by a man who said it was Gerry McCann.

    I just find it strange that there should be a flurry of people calling with new 'sightings' or whatever.

    Who, in their right mind, would think, "Well I did see someone carrying a child away that night but I won't bother telling the police because the time is very slightly different."

    I don't think the Portuguese dismissed the later sighting but, to be fair, they have very little to go on as it was quite vague and contradicted, in part, by his daughter.

    With 30 elite British detectives and now the Portuguese, on the job, there must be something happening you'd think.
     
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  9. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I think everyone would love that to be the case.
     
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  10. its been fun thanks :)

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    A Walter Mitty character or just too sinister to be true ?
     
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  11. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/without-jane.html?m=1


    Sunday, 20 October 2013

    Without Jane


    Well, Scotland Yard’s latest findings make the scenario rather different. Without Jane Tanner's "abductor" who the Yard have stated didn't exist, wouldn't the reporting have had to go something like this?

    CHILD "MISSING" IN PORTUGAL

    Sky news reports that a couple in the Algarve say their three year old daughter has "disappeared” from their holiday apartment. They say they were “not in their apartment” at the moment the child went missing.

    Police are searching the area.

    Madeleine Latest

    A British couple have claimed their three year old child “vanished” from their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal last Thursday. The mother has told the media how she returned alone from a restaurant to find an intruder had broken into the child’s bedroom and abducted her.

    Police are refusing to comment on the claims.

    Baffled

    Yesterday her family gave further details of the break-in, adding that the door had been “jemmied open” and the metal shutters damaged by an intruder.

    But experts are baffled. There have been no reports of suspicious activity at the time of the disappearance.

    And the resort manager, Mr Hill, has called the McCann version into question by saying that there was no evidence of a break-in anywhere in the resort. Both door and shutters, he said, were completely undamaged. No finger prints apart from the mother’s were on the bedroom window.

    Police are questioning the couple and their friends in Portimao.

    MADDY – NEW EVIDENCE ABOUT TOT



    The bar where the parents "drank and argued"

    According to neighbours the child had been heard crying for a lengthy period one or two nights before the "break in" .

    Others now say that the McCanns were "rowing” in a bar late on the night before the disappearance with Dr McCann suddenly leaving on his own. “Kate's eyes were those of a woman scorned”, said a waiter.

    Another person in the bar, an attractive fitness instructor, denied that she had caused “family tension” between the couple.

    On May 3 Kate McCann again returned home "without her husband".

    Shock evidence in Portuguese disappearance

    English holidaymakers have told police Madeleine’s father was seen “hanging around” by the back door of the apartment at about 9.15, just before the child disappeared.

    Mr Jeremy Wilcox, an English tourist, saw Dr McCann walking away from the back door in the ill-lit street alongside the apartment block. The gate was hanging open. The pair had a brief conversation before Mr Wilkins, a world-famous documentary maker with a child of his own, left.

    Further confusion has arisen from Dr McCann's claims that "he left the back door open" that evening, even though the children were alone while the parents ate at a nearby restaurant.

    Madeleine McCann was not seen again after 9.15 on Thursday.

    Conflict of Evidence in Child Disappearance



    What Jane Tanner saw – artists' impression

    M/S Jane Tanner, an English tourist, has now come forward to say that she too saw Dr Gerry McCann on the otherwise deserted street behind his holiday apartment.

    She said, “I walked past him and Mr Wilkins as I was on my way to my own apartment to deal with my sick child.”

    Asked if she’d seen the “jemmied open” shutters up as she passed the front of the apartment, M/S Tanner said, “No. Nobody did.”

    Dr McCann is now refusing to comment but a family friend said, “If she was on that street Gerry would have seen her, like he saw Mr Wilcox. He didn’t. She wasn’t.”

    The child’s mother is believed to be under sedation and unable to take part in the latest round of police questioning.

    Mr Wilcocks has been eliminated from police inquiries.

    Algarve mystery may soon be solved - police.

    It is now understood that at the time Kate McCann claims she found their holiday apartment broken into a middle-aged man was seen carrying a child through ill-lit back streets towards the sea edge where a low but turbulent tide was running. Police divers have been operating off the beach for two days now.

    Dr Gerry McCann, 40, is from Rothley in Leicestershire

    Three witnesses have described the man seen with the child, who they described as “apparently unconscious”. One of them has claimed to recognise him.

    A police source said “we expect to make arrests soon.” Asked about rumours that the man was identified as British doctor on holiday in the area, the police refused to comment.

    The international media who flooded into Praia da Luz ten days ago have begun to leave, it was reported today.
     
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  12. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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  13. flandersmackem

    flandersmackem Well-Known Member

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    Its just him that bugs me...she looks proper distraught, he looks cold and calculating..not a father who has lost his daughter. Also, yes his body language there looks suspect to me
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

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    This is always the conundrum isn't it?

    McCann may well have been a despicable arrogant ****er all his life.

    We know he barely gave his kids a thought, or a minute of his time, on the last day and preferred to save a few quid than pay for the babysitting service.
    We know that, every night, he left 3 tiny kids in an open flat, in a foreign country while he went out with his pals.

    But because the girl may have been abducted people look at him in a totally different light, as if he's some kind of victim or an honourable man doing what's best.

    I really don't think he has much to be proud of.
     
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  15. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    From twitter
    37 minutes ago
    Here we go. Dead ex-employee of the ocean club is now the latest suspect. Revenge for being sacked appears to be the motive. Little story in tonight's evening standard. Yawn.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    I was happy to **** in the store room, when I was sacked from my first job, but I'd draw the line at strangling a toddler and hiding the body tbh.
     
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  17. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Haha, dead scapegoat as somebody suggested it would be, went back 5 pages, cant see who it was
     
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  18. its been fun thanks :)

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    twas me
     
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  19. C19RK73

    C19RK73 Red & White army!

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    Looks like you could be on the money then mate although that was just twitter
     
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  20. Brian Storm

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    Any of you lads cracked the case then?
     
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