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O/T Chelsea v Arsenal - red card

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  1. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    I agree - but I bet he'll get a one-game ban anyway. He shouldn't.

    Could free up a World Cup spot if he can cover as third keeper. :D
     
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  2. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

    HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter if it was going in it not, he deliberately hand balled to prevent a goal. If he thought it was going wide he wouldn't have touched it. Therefore it's a cynical professional foul that's worthy of a ban.
     
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  3. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Agreed.
     
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  4. WhittlingStick

    WhittlingStick Well-Known Member

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    exactly Sol handballed it as he thought it was going in - otherwise he wouldnt have - He should get Henrys ban instead.
     
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  5. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    But the law is about denying a clear goalscoring opportunity, not denying what the player believes is a clear goalscoring opportunity. Surely it's up to the referee to decide what is a clear goalscoring opportunity and what isn't, not the player?
     
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  6. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    The hapless and equally clueless ref. Andre Marriner HAS NOT been stood down for next weekend. He has been given the meaningless PL game between Southampton v. Newcastle Utd. :emoticon-0116-evilg IMO he should have been dropped to 4th official duties for the rest of the season. <ok>
     
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  7. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    Why?

    It was a freak one-off error which could happen with any ref. Why should he be punished? It's not like he wasn't looking or neglected to pay attention. He had to make a quick decision and probably realised he'd got it wrong instantly but you can't change your mind as a ref. I'd rather see refs punished for the deliberately wrong decisions which are made every game and which are one big thing wrong with the modern game.
     
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  8. originallambrettaman

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    Marriner hasn't been dropped, he's doing Southampton v Newcastle on Saturday.
     
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  9. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    It is not the first time that he has messed up @ Chelsea this season. He was also the ref. who gave Chelsea a last minute penalty against WBA when it wasn't. Cost WBA the game and possibly Steve Clarke his job. Wba were on a roll until that point.

    I have never rated AM and those 2 instances are massive cock ups. But back to saturday. Giibbs was well away from the Ox when he handled it. It was a very bad day for him made worse by the fact he would not listen / change his mind even though both sets of players told him incl. Ox.
     
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  10. onceatiger

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    The original error was forgiveable but to not reverse the decision when it was pointed out to him - what the hell did he think the Ox was on about- no player is going to say 'it wasn't him it was me' unless they mean it!!
     
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    He had no choice apparently, once he's shown a player a straight red, he's not allowed to change his mind.
     
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  12. onceatiger

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    If so that is crazy.
    He's not changing his mind about the offence or the need for a red card, just recognising that he has penalised the wrong player
     
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  13. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    Yes he can. He has until the game re-starts to change his mind. After that it then goes to the panel to cancel any red card wrongly issued.
     
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  14. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    But with Arsenal 3-0 down it was best to leave the OX on the pitch more than defender Gibbs. Arsenal had to chase the game but they did not. They just gave up.
     
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  15. onceatiger

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    Errr.... are you saying that Marriner made the decision for Arsenal's benefit then?
     
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  16. The FRENCH TICKLER

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    Not at all. Just pointing out the facts of the mess he created.
     
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  17. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    Well done, FA...

    Arsenal then subsequently moved to have that offence downgraded on appeal, claiming the England midfielder had not in fact technically prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity as the shot from Chelsea's Eden Hazard looked to be going just wide.

    That claim was also upheld, meaning both Gibbs and Oxlade-Chamberlain will be able to face Swansea.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2588242/Alex-Oxlade-Chamberlain-Kieran-Gibbs-face-no-punishment-red-card-Chelsea-appeal.html
     
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  18. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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    I hope that Arsenal dont lose 4th place on goal differnce to say Everton or Spurs.
     
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