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Off Topic NUKE THEM OR NOT TO NUKE THEM, THAT IS THE QUESTION...?

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  1. saintanton

    saintanton Old

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    I'm guessing you know the story of the Sack Of Baltimore, Sis?
     
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  2. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Anonymous declares “total war” on Islamic State after Paris attacks
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      The Anonymous hacking group has declared “total war” on Islamic State, reports Newsweek. The announcement, which came through a series of Tweets and a YouTube post comes just days after a series of coordinated attacks in Paris leftmore than 100 dead.

      Following the announcement on Twitter the group released a YouTube video with a masked presenter speaking in French.

      In it he or she states, “The French people are stronger than you and will come out of this atrocity even stronger. Anonymous from all over the world will hunt you down. You should know that we will find you and we will not let you go. We will launch the biggest operation ever against you.” There are then several images of the aftermath of the attack in Paris last week connecting the announcement directly to last week’s attacks. A second Tweet then followed outlining the group were better hackers than Daesh – an acronym for the Islamic State’s proper Arabic name, al-Dawla al-Islamiya fi al-Iraq wa al-Sham.



      If Anonymous’ previous history of attacking the Islamic State is anything to go by, expect them to be effective.

      According to Foreign Policy magazine, the group has dismantled some 149 Islamic State-linked websites and flagged roughly 101,000 Twitter accounts and 5,900 propaganda videos.

      While there is little doubt that the wheels of the UK, the US and French security services have been quietly and constantly turning to disrupt the Islamic State’s digital presence, we can’t help feel that Anonymous joining the party will yield very public results.

      Hacker Group Anonymous Announces ‘Biggest Operation’ Against ISIS After Paris Attacks [Newsweek]
     
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  3. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Anonymous: 5 or 6 exceptionally talented IT professionals and 2000 teenage kids shouting "me too".

    It's honourable they want to challenge daesh but half the time they cause more problems than they solve... Or screw up completely... Like their KKK list that listed an African American civil rights campaigner as a KKK activist.<doh>
     
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  4. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    I'd never heard of them. Don't even know why I posted it <laugh>
     
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  5. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    They're an online vigilante group. Sometimes they attack companies because they don't like them (Sony).

    Other times they do "social good" vigilante style by going after the KKK , NK, Mexican drug gangs ,or now Daesh.

    They're not inherently bad. Basically anyone can join and claim membership as long as they do it anonymously. So you get people who do things thinking they're doing good... And assholes who use it as a front to target women online to harass them.


    There's some really talented people amongst their numbers and then there is a vast multitude of bored teens who think it's cool to hang on their coattails and play hacker.

    They've tried to solve murders before and because they've not coordinated (it's loosely knit... Just an organisation of peers) they've announced multiple different killers for the same crime. (obviously they weren't all guilty... But that didn't stop each person fingered getting thousands of death threats from the group).

    Basically they do some good, some bad, but the world as a whole would be better off without them.
     
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  6. saintanton

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    You've been drugged and brainwashed.

    You're just a tool.....<whistle>
     
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  7. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Thanks, saint.
     
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  8. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Lucky batard.
     
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  9. BBFs Unpopular View

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    I remember the Viginaltes from my area in Dublin growing up, if you got caught in a given area, you just got battered to a pulp, no questions.

    Agree there, seem to do good but they get out of control too. A bit of power does that to us
     
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  10. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Mastermind behind the Paris attacks is dead. Killed in the seige <ok>
     
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  11. If true, he got off far too lightly. Deserved to suffer a slow and extremely painful death.
     
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  12. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    As long as he's dead and can't plan anymore attacks. (assuming he is guilty).


    Yeah, he probably deserved a worse death but removing the threat more important than the revenge part.
     
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  13. I didn't say it for revenge purposes, couldn't give a **** about revenge. Its about setting an example and showing future offenders what will happen should they get caught. Its a deterrent if such a thing is possible. Just killing them in a painless manner won't stop them.

    They probably still wouldn't give a **** mind. Obviously the suicide bombers wouldn't.
     
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  14. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    More upset that the dog died than he did.
     
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  15. saintanton

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    Revenge, though a natural reaction, is meaningless. It doesn't bring back the dead and usually contributes to an escalation of atrocities.
    Deterrence is an altogether different thing. It's hard to know what would deter someone so motivated that they fully expect to die in the process of their attack- or in some cases intend to do just that.
    Would making the manner of death worse deter the determined? In the past we had frighteningly abhorrent methods of execution, but whether or not they influenced the number of offenders is arguable.
    I for one don't want to see a return to the "justice" of the dark ages - it seems to me that's one of the methods of the people we're up against.
    I'm no theologian, but I think the peaceful Muslim community could do us all a service by rejecting the ideology that jihadi killers are set for a great reward in the afterlife. I don't know if that is a tenet of modern Islamic teaching, but it still seems to be a prevalent belief.
     
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  16. You could be right, it probably won't effect anything. But if we sit back and continue to act in the way we do, it definitely won't stop. We've got to do something but the question is what? The offenders know that.
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Stop all immigration?
     
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  18. Thus Spake Zarathustra

    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    Including doctors, nurses, scientists, engineers, artists, musicians, athletes, entertainers, penguin-balancers, etc,?
     
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  19. So your saying "****'em" then <laugh>

    Plus what Donga said (I was thinking about the innocents being killed daily)
     
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  20. saintanton

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    I have no idea. It's one of the major problems facing humanity in the near future.
    One question I ask myself is what exactly is it that they want? If a fairer world order, that can be negotiated. In a world obsessed with profit, it's never going to be just- but at least an attempt to improve it would be a start.
    However, if they want to make Islam the world religion, and Islamic Law global, then that simply isn't going to happen under any circumstances.
    But an awful lot of innocent people are going to die in the attempt to bring it about.
     
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