Thanks for your welcome and hospitality guys, it's been an education to say the least! And thanks Norveige, I will certainly drop round for an ale in the virtual Hornets Nest from time to time - it'll make a change from my local, the Last Chance Saloon! Mind you, reckon the FA's got plans to keep us in there for afters this time round... Mad as it sounds, when it comes to nuclear energy and where to safely build our power stations, I reckon Aberdeenhornet could be on the right track - just going in the wrong direction. 'As mentioned on another thread we need to find another planet (or 4) would be good for people to have a choice, live in the stone age, live in the iron age, live in the pre industrial age, live in the current age or live in the future age... '. Forget all that - the moon (dark side) might be an option - just stick all our dodgy stuff on that with ways of beaming the energy supplies down. Meantime we can all get on with kicking lumps out of each other in our tribal football games and living peaceably alongside Aberdude and Rs fans!! Top up for Aberdeenhornet it is then, and one for Norway in comparing caveman and football culture with, 'who has the biggest club wins'! Nice one.
lol i just noticed what you said Norway, and i'll admit there would be times i wouldn't wholeheartedly object..but that's for another discussion View attachment 1796
The problems with nuclear power are obvious BUT consider some of the alternatives. How many people die as a result of coal powered electricity generation? This is not just a matter of miners getting killed but also respiratory diseases. In NZ we have no nuclear power. NZ is anti nuclear to the point that no US warships are allowed to visit that are nuclear powered. What we do have is a lot of hydro generation. I, for one, would not live down stream from a hydro lake given that we are earthquake prone. I suspect that we will have to rely on technological change, and we don't know where that will take us. One of my favourite UK Government reports (that makes me sound really sad!) was written in 1850 and was concerned with the slowness of transport in London as the poulation grew. The report stated that by 1950 London streets would be under 12 feet of horse manure.
Yep rather useful feature that one! NZ I suppose we have to rely on human inventiveness and ingenuity to come up with a solution to avoid wallowing around in horse pooh! or avoid living in a radioactive hell! There is also a no nuke policy in Norway ,although we have managed our oil and gas resources alot better than the uk! A lot of money has been spent on the next generation electricity providers! We too have wind farms setting up all over the place even miles out to sea!!! there are areas up North where tidal power and osmosis plants are well done research road , also similar to NZ we have a lot of hydro electric plants! I think when they crack osmosis effiecently will be a big thing ,at the moment you are left with a brackish water as a byproduct!
Offshore windfarms are pretty big in the UK these days and onshore seem to be everywhere. Hydro has a massive environmental impact particularly to those living in the areas to be flooded and downstream of damns. I love Tomich in the highlands but if you go up the valley and see the dam I dread to think what would happen if there were a breach. We can scratch at things with tidal but none of the alternative energy sources can provide the energy volumes we need and it will always be a mixed box of sources unless we have a major contraction in global population. Osmosis is cracked at research level. I'm very pro nuclear at the end of the day but strongly temper that with the correct design controls must be in place. I did start my MSc in alternative energy some 10 years ago now but never got the time away from the revenue generating grind of modern life to finish it. During that work we were designing environmentally friendly solutions for island economies and that is still very feasible but large modern societies with heavy industry, no.
It may not be feasible yet , but it needs to be feasible soon or we may have a one option future! ie nuclear , although the most effiecent, as japan has proved ,you can have all the failsases in the world ,but things can still go wrong , Chernobyl is still counting the cost as will japan for a very long term ! there has to be another way, we just havent figured it out yet! I think we should go nuclear in the future only as a last resort!
Seems another quake has hit Japan How much more do these people have to take ! least it was only 7 on the richter scale!
My old gran would be smiling!!! She wouldnt even ride in a japanese car, the generation who saw the inhumanity of th japanese as a culture, they were so cruel in the war, never forgiven.
I think the 20 yr old plus and 30yr old plus generations may be a bit less cruel as they werent the ones there!!
Thats why I referred to the culture. I think in Japan there is a significant sadistic element from a defective genus.
Hmmmm - to me that is just racist - stereotyping a whole nation by their deeds in the war - the British were pretty cruel in the days of our Empire and the Spanish, Portugese and Dutch have nothing to write home about - and then you come to the Germans - before you know it you can characterise any nation or race - as we do now too often with Arabs and Muslims. There is no doubt that the Japanese were terrible in the last war but it does not mean that it is some sor to f genetic trait
