So what you meant was that Ranieri only had one season as Chelsea manage after you started supporting the club...
I've never disputed Vardy diving ...ever , only that a penalty happened previous to the dive and should nullify the dive . 50% of refs would call what happened to Vardy a penalty , 50 % wouldn't . What bothers me is the extreme difference it makes to the game over a 50-50 . A good ref would have called nothing and let play continue .
Not sure about that statement. What we can see on this small sample on this forum is 2 for Vardys penalty (you and fossil barely!) and everyone else against. As for the yellow,i see that more as 50/50 because you need to be 100% sure as a ref to give it imo and even then someone going down doesn't constitute a dive. In this instance i think he was 100% right to give it. I wouldn't have complained if he had left it either as it was a difficult situation but i applaud the refs brave decision as we often mention they bottle decisions.
There was grounds to call a penalty . I've seen tons of similar plays bobby and some are called , some aren't .it's the extremes of circumstance and reprecusions of this perticular event that bother me . Close decisions can be catastrophic to a game . Look at Newcastle yesterday , playing their arses off , fans going crazy , great and important game and bingo ......the ref let a brain fart offside go for an important goal . How do you miss that as an official . It's bullshit . The officials are protected to the point of laziness . Football is probably the only sport that doesn't allow replays shown in the stadium , I think that's true . You want refs to wise up , start showing the crowd they're mistakes and they will focus up big time
I'm not having a dig, it's your opinion and I think you're correct in that you've pointed out that there was an arm on him but not enough to cause that reaction. The same is true for Reid when he got the penalty. He dived knowing the ref was ready to blow up. IMO the incidents should be kept separate in which case he gets booked (and sent off) for diving but it was the same as Vardy. Both should have been penalised but only Vardy was
We will just have to agree to disagree . Vardy was grabbed and partially pulled back ......straight penalty and Leicester go up 1-0 and finish the game with Vardy because the dive doesn't matter at that point .Past that , The rest of the game has no bearing on this play
Not sure thats a good thing showing refs up. That will only cause them to even things up if they are shown to make a huge mistake. Refs are only human and only get to see things once from one angle, you can't expect them to make every call 100% right. Yes that Aguero decision was terrible and had detrimental impacts to newcastle and me (i'm in 6 FF leagues where i'm 1st or 2nd with around 800 pounds total for all them leagues and i'm the only ****er with no Aguero, plus i had Newcastle to win at 4/1 yesterday) but this stuff happens. Unless you want a black and white decision making on Offsides which you can do, i don't think you can do that for the other parts of the game because even now we're debating whether vardys penalty should have been one and that is one of the more "clear cut" views of a penalty. There are plenty of cases where it is not even clear and there is a more 50/50 split (like vardys one at arsenal, which was more split to is a isn't a penalty)
do you agree that Moses when he was "pushed" on the waist by the swansea defender merited a penalty (which he did get) or was that a dive and he should have been shot (Monk was very angry about this).
Showing replays in the stadium ultimately was the catalyst for video review on plays , something that's needed in this sport
... personally I can't wait for common sense to prevail and for decisions like that to be reviewed by a guy with a monitor ... works in Rugby (and other sports) and the argument that it will slow down the game is complete bollox ... how long did it take for the game to restart after the ref made the sending off call ? ... all it needed was for him to be able to request " ... I'd like an opinion on the coming together ... contact or no contact ... foul or no foul ... if no foul simulation?" ... ... it would also cut out the set piece wrestling if the players know there is the likelihood of a there and then review ....
to be honest i think all the reds on the liverpool board think it was a dive as well. Then you have John the Fox and Tobes... but no i haven't done an official poll. Oh and me a chelsea fan
Yes but then who makes the call. It's not black and white if we had you in the video you'd have said penalty whereas if it was me i'd have said dive and yellow Definitely agree with the set piece wrestling... they definitely take things too far there
I would be interested to know what would have happened if he hadn't dived, as I mentioned above, with his pace he may have been fouled anyway as the defender was getting closer to him. I suppose the question is whether the ref goes with the foul of the subsequent dive as like I say, with Reid he went with foul even though Reid dived and there was no more contact on him than there was Vardy. With Vardy, he ignores the contact and gives the dive. He should be consistent at least
Circumstance and reprecusions ...... From Leicester being up 1-0 and not only retaining Vardy for the rest of the game but for the rest of the upcoming games and the opposing team could very well be down to 10 men from a last man back foul .......to the the score is even , Leicester are down ro 10 men , And ultimately Vardy misses half their remaining games . The Moses thing is a simple cut and dried thing with not a lot of side issues imo
... I wouldn't have said penalty ... my view was that there was contact (far more contact than Benteke had against Palace, for instance) ... but not enough deliberate contact by the defender to merit a penalty (although he shouldn't have had a hand on Vardy's shoulder) because Vardy initiated the tangle deliberately ... I'd have given a goalkick or corner depending on who touched it last ...
Just because it happened in a bigger game and Vardy chooses to dive after his very minimal contact doesn't mean its different. If you think the contact on Vardy is a foul then you must think the contact on Moses warrents a penalty too. My point is, the contact was very minimal. I would say the what Morgan did on Reid was a bit more contact and even then he didn't really put that much force in compared to some of the wrestling that normally goes on (like the one on Huth). Anyway i'm digressing
