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Now or Never for Spurs

Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by luvgonzo, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    ... a few of our fans now believe we have blown our chance ... we haven't YET ... but it has now become more difficult ... it is time for level heads, character, determination and desire ... if we show all of those yet still fall short, then that is just the way of it ...
     
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  2. FosseFilberto

    FosseFilberto Pizzeria Superiore and some ...
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    ... whining? ... all I have said is that I didn't think it was a penalty but neither did I think it merited a sending off .. as to whining ... you should perhaps check your own board when things aren't going your way ..
     
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  3. Spurlock

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    Gracious of you to be honest. As for the title, it is still yours to lose.
     
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  4. NSIS

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    Trying to con the ref, or simulation, is a yellow card offence. In just about everybody's opinion it was a clear dive, and as I pointed out, not even a very good one. Clear yellow card, I'm afraid.

    Personally, I'd save my ire for Vardy for being so stupid.
     
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  5. JohnTheFox

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    Expect the worst and set yourself up for disapointment as they say Fosse. I'm fully expecting Spurs to win their lot which still leaves us a huge task
     
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    I'm not going to be blinkered and biased just because it was Leicester though. As has been pointed out there was contact but if he'd carried on he might have got the penalty in genuine circumstances. He looked to turn some slight contact into engineering the pen and live it looked like a dive straight away
     
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  7. Spurlock

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    Fosse I don't blame you or any other Leicester fan for being aggrieved. Your right I would be miffed. I would also be honest to myself and admit that, to use your example , Alli probably got what he deserved due to him reacting and ultimately him costing Spurs, quite possibly the league. Let's stick with Alli. He is petulant at times. He can have little digs etc and I know many Spurs fans would pull him up for it on these forums at least as many have done.

    And if I was a 'neutral' I'd say it as I saw it not as I wish I saw it.

    Ohh and most of us said we were lucky with the pen. A lot of us also said, myself included, that that's football. Vardy is a gobshaite and got pulled. Tough ****.

    As PNP put it 'chat ****, get banned'.
     
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  8. JohnTheFox

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    I don't think Alli or Vardy are necessarily cheats or bad people. They both come from the same mould from lower league football and not the premadona nature of the premier league. I think when we get incidents like this, it is a case of them getting sucked in picking up the and habits. Alli will obviously mature with age and Vardy, well hopefully he has learned his lesson the hard way with this situation. He's a great player, a hard worker and a top finisher. He doesn't need to have this side to his game
     
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  9. Spurlock

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    No not bad people. Its football we have all played the game. Full of pressure points and the pivotal points are how the players deal with these pressure points. On a pitch I've done things I've got away with, at other times I've been caught. I know when I've been wrong though. You just have to accept it. I'm sure Vardy knows he messed up at a pivotal time. Hard to admit though when you know it could jeopardise your whole teams hard work. Things like this can galvanize teams, let's see how it fares for Leicester.

    And congrats on securing a top 3 finish.
     
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  10. BobbyD

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    Please look again and stop being a clown. Arbiter of foul play jesus that sort of stuff goes on with every challenge in regards to the 'hand' on the shoulder. Vardy does it every time he's running for a ball with the defender. Seriously for someone who supports one of the most physical/dirty teams in the league this is really rich about contact being a foul. You will know about the rule when you play barca next year

    As for quicker and running across his defender hes side by side with ogbonna and then throws his legs into ogbonna. Vardys legs arent under they are too the side unnaturally to cause the contact and he isnt in front either as his legs are behind ogbonnas front legs.
     
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    ... I have never once commented that I thought it was a penalty ... I have merely said that i didn't think it merited a sending off (and Moss knew that a second yellow would be just that) ... the ref could just have waived play on ... I have merely pointed out that the defender was technically fouling Vardy with the hand on the shoulder ... you feel because that goes on every game it is not a foul ... as such, I'm sure you will agree that Winston Reid and Wes Morgan were engaged in stuff that 'goes on every game' at the West ham penalty incident ... did you not think that Reid threw himself to the ground a little theatrically? ... did Wes Morgan really give such a big man as Reid such an enormous shove that it caused him to sail through the air like Tom Daley? ... or was Reid guilty of some 'exaggeration' ? ...should he have been booked for that? ... would have been a second yellow ... and he had also thrown himself down in the penalty area earlier (which Moss ignored) ...

    As for the 'clown' accusation, penis breath ... please be civil ... I have only made some observations ...

    I fully accept that we atre a physical team and at times walk a dangerous line ... personally I want refs to blow as soon as a plyer seeks to hold another at a set-piece ... I see the current situation as a cancer in the game ...

    I am also annoyed with Vards for taking the risk on a yellow .. wasn't sound judgement ...
     
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    Can't disagree with any of that Spurlock ... as I've mentioned on a previous post - I am very irritated with Vards for taking the risk ...

    Unlike a few of our own who are now predicting gotterdammerung I am not wholly despondent ... we certainly are not a one man team and there may be other twists along the road before this season's order of merit is established ... of late we have relied (in my view too much) on Vardy's incredible pace ... we might now revert to some of the football we played earlier in the season where we retained far more possession and broke teams down by more intricate play ... if we can get results in the next too games without Vards then it might even be a blessing in disguise...
     
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  13. BobbyD

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    I dont think all non penalties are dives and if vardy had purely gone down whether through jelly legs or cause of a bit of shoulder to shoulder strength i wouldn't think it was merited. In this instance he clearly tried to con moss by moving his legs into an abnormal position to initiate contact to look like a penalty so i think the yellow was quite right. Maybe he could have withheld it as a fifty fifty decision but he was well within his reason to give it.
    Agreed about all the bear hugging at set plays. Would rather see loads of penalties given than none
     
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    Its still yours to lose Fosse. Your team has got some serious passion and unity. Things like this usually galvanize teams who play with heart.

    4 games to go, the twists have started.
     
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    This weekend could decide it. If Swansea roll over at Leicester, then the pressure is all on Spurs again Monday night, and I can see Pulis doing a Pulis and upsetting the apple cart.

    If Leicester win and Spurs draw, then a 7 point lead with 3 games remaining would take a bottle job worthy of Arsenal to blow it.
     
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    Certainly twists to come, WBA are going to get 8 penalties next weekend, don't worry though, Berahino will be taking them all <ok>

    We've ground out results in the recent past and hadn't conceded in 5 games, so we have the capability to keep on going.

    I want us to win for Ranieri mainly, one of the nicest managers in football who has always finished runner-up in top european leagues. C'mon lads! Do it for Claudio!
     
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  17. BobbyD

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    Yup, would love claudio to get his silverware. was a shame he wasn't given a real chance at chelsea (only having 1 season) and he's such a nice bloke. Just hope Leicester don't **** it up!
     
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    As a neutral I'd love to see you do it, as it'll stick it to the supposed 'big guns' sideways.

    In addition Spurs winning it would be unbearable. Glenn Hoddle's massive grid being everywhere and HIAG's wumming are 2 reason enough for not wanting that one to happen.

    BUT, I don't want it to be a procession I'd love to see it go to the final day (not what you want obviously lol)
     
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    Despite the pessimism of some Leicester fans, it's still very much their's to lose. All we can do is try to make sure we're there to take advantage should they falter.
     
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    He would be unbearable, adding winning the bet thread to his haul.
     
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