1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Grand Prix thread Not606 2016 Austrian Grand Prix Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by EternalMSC, Jun 21, 2016.

?

Who Will Crack Open a Well Deserved Cool Beer Over The Österreich

Poll closed Jul 2, 2016.
  1. Nico Rosberg

    7 vote(s)
    38.9%
  2. Lewis Hamilton

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%
  3. Sebastian Vettel

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%
  4. Kimi Raikkonen

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Daniel Ricciardo

    1 vote(s)
    5.6%
  6. Max Verstappen

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Valtteri Bottas

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Sergio Perez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Felipe Massa

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Other: Please State In Bold

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    They could have the equivalent of hawk-eye for deciding whether a driver took their normal line, or what their projected path would have been to decide whether they would make a corner or not!
     
    #321
  2. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    23,701
    Likes Received:
    18,023
    Here's the point, it ISN'T acceptable, more than one driver has been penalised for it, but one driver in particular has been allowed to do it time and again, the same driver has also been allowed to change his tyres for the race because he flat spotted them in quali and also been allowed to cut chicanes to take and hold a lead.
    **** F1 from now on.
     
    #322
  3. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    cry me a river
     
    #323
    Munson owns Fosse likes this.
  4. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    8,233
    Likes Received:
    811
    I've campaigned for this (in my own world :emoticon-0121-angry) for the last two seasons and often drawn similarities to the old saying, some play cricket while the others are playing baseball.

    As a bare minimum the rules need simplifying, however I would suggest pretty much removing them all together. Charlie screwed this all up when trying to falsify overtaking with idea of giving room to a driver trying to overtake with that absolute tosh of (#) "significantly alongside". In effect he has given the advantage to the trailing driver which us fundamentally against the sporting ethos of competition.

    (#) Significant is a substantial or large amount and NOT a front wing alongside a rear wheel! In any other form of racing that's thought of as nibbling and is one of the worst half hearted things to do which normally ends with the leading car spinning!
     
    #324
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2016
    taeleon likes this.
  5. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    Agree 100%.

    There should be no requirement for rules. It is clear what constitutes ungentlemanly or dangerous driving. That was the marker in the past to decide whether someone had gone beyond the limit or not.
     
    #325
  6. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    14,426
    Likes Received:
    5,590
    Fewer rules, less ambiguity and settling a coming together with a fist fight in the garage. :)
     
    #326
  7. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2011
    Messages:
    8,233
    Likes Received:
    811
    Sounds good to me Lol! :emoticon-0165-muscl:emoticon-0170-ninja
     
    #327
    SgtBhaji likes this.
  8. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    23,701
    Likes Received:
    18,023
    there's no ambiguity, you're not allowed to drive people off the circuit,
    unless your Hamilton
     
    #328
  9. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2011
    Messages:
    14,426
    Likes Received:
    5,590
    please log in to view this image
     
    #329
  10. ched999uk

    ched999uk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,987
    Likes Received:
    2,152
    Not wanting to open a can of worms but these un-written rules and common practice are a big issue. As soon as Charlie started offering 'interpretations' on the rules everything was up for pushing. I mean that fundamentally if a rule is open to interpretation it needs to be re-written. While sometimes a new needs clarification once that clarification is made it should be written in to the rules.
    The most dangerous 'interpretation' of the rules is the yellow flags. It has become 'acceptable' to just lift in the section where the yellows are.
    Here is what the f1 site says:
    'Yellow flag
    Indicates danger, such as a stranded car, ahead. A single waved yellow flag warns drivers to slow down, while two waved yellow flags at the same post means that drivers must slow down and be prepared to stop if necessary. Overtaking is prohibited. '

    This 'slow down' and 'prepare to stop' should not be so vague. In this day and age it needs to be some form of automated system to slow cars to pit lane speeds. If cars are only deemed safe in pits when they are at 'pit lane' speed then the marshals should receive the same level of protection when they have to go on track.

    Rules are required but they need to be in the spirit of racing, clear, not open to interpretation, transparent and consistent in their application.
     
    #330
    eddie_squidd likes this.

  11. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    7,655
    Likes Received:
    1,314

    He's a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliché; mother held him too much or not enough, last picked at kickball, late night sneaky uncle, whatever. Now he's so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain; gives him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts.
     
    #331
  12. notDistantGreen

    notDistantGreen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2011
    Messages:
    9,300
    Likes Received:
    181
    Or Rosberg at Barcelona this year and at twice at Bahrain in 2012

    http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/sport/formula_1/article1023049.ece

    Can you see a pattern? Lunging across to the nearside when someone gets the better line on the exit?
     
    #332
  13. taeleon

    taeleon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2011
    Messages:
    492
    Likes Received:
    330
    please log in to view this image

    HAMILTON... ARE YOU READY?!?!
    ROSBERG... ARE YOU READY?!?!
    FIGHT!
     
    #333
    ched999uk and SgtBhaji like this.
  14. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2011
    Messages:
    2,599
    Likes Received:
    1,696
    Keep crying those salty tears, it's so funny
     
    #334
  15. ErnieBecclestone

    ErnieBecclestone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2011
    Messages:
    1,752
    Likes Received:
    107
    Nah, its the road to mediocrity, sadly, exactly where the UK is right now.
     
    #335

Share This Page