Not Fooled by Fergie!!!!!

Oh DDDDDD, why did you have to even think this, let alone start writing it down? Why couldn't you just take the higher ground, rather than go have a rant?

There is just no need, Yes Fergie is a ****, we all know that, but this post shows levels of anger and frustration that are off the scale. Everyone is trying to play nice for a week, and we get to the last night, and you have to go start it. Yes Fergie will have a couple of selfish reasons about the mancs looking bad, but so would every manager, and I think you are projecting pantomime levels of evil on to the man if you think he doesn't have an honest feeling about the 96.

Seek help DDDDDD, this is not healthy.

 

If Fergie did nothing, he'd be accused of allowing it, still it's been going on years, a bit late, did Fergie also believe the Sun and the SYP is a good question.

Still, no point slating him for taking action albeit belatedly

 

Agree with your first point but I just cannot understand this one. Ferguson isnt man utd's chant police. He probably doesnt even hear their chants half the time. I dont know because I cannot be bothered to look, but he may very well have condemned it before now. The point is, now is the perfect time to fight it head on. Had Liverpool played man utd on the 20th anniversary i imagine the letters would have been sent out then. Had Liverpool played man utd in the semi final of the fa cup it might well have happened then. You would hope that grown adults would not need telling to not sing songs that mock the dead, but unfortunately there are some in society to whom 'respect' is a totally alien concept.

He may well have been waiting years for the opportunity to, in amongst his undoubtedly busy schedule, to address this issue but never felt like the right moment. It certainly wasnt the right moment when 'always the victims, its never your fault' was undoubtedly a direct reference to luis suarez and the racism row.

For the coming game it was not just the perfect opportunity, it was a necessity. If somebody you dont know or like dies you might make comments to the effect that you didnt like him anyway (not me personally, but some might). I have heard jokes cracked about celebrities who have died. In bad taste, but they are still told. there is a huge difference between this and turning up on a day of huge emotional poignancy for the family of the dead and cracking jokes about their death in front of their families and friends.

Nobody knows his motives for sending out the letter now. I would suggest that he saw today as the perfect opportunity to address something he has felt very strongly about for a long time but the moment has never been right. I would also suggest that for all his faults he has been extremely supportive and respectful towards the hillsborough memorial from day one. And I would suggest that anybody who feels differently is confusing his footballing persona (selfish, overbearing, bullying, twisting ever scenario in every way he can to gain his team an advantage) with his persona concering matters either not directly concerning football or concerning past issues (respectufl, supportive, polite and dignified.) This is clearly an issue of the latter.

 

Jesus tonight! As Alun Jones, the QC for the families in their 2000 prosecution of Duckenfield and Murray said, the evidence has been out there for decades and it's the Establishment, the Fourth Estate and the judiciary who've turned a deliberate blind eye, not Alex Ferguson. I hate Fergie as much as the next man, but ffs, consider what was revealed the Wednesday before last: that rogue's list of those complicit that's been stated would LOVE those associated with our club to focus our anger and determination on Utd and Fergie. Well it's an insult to the '96.

Grow up, Ferguson, like Moyes, has never been anything but gracious and supoortive on this subject, and concentrate our fury over the 96 on those that deserve it. And let's hope we beat those Manc bastards today - thoughI've a dreadful feeling they're due a win at Anfield, and I feel sick that they'll rub our noses in it big style - WHICH THEY'RE ENTITLED TO DO, AND WE'D DO IF THE BOOT WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT! Hope I'm bloodt wrong.....

 

Guys it is a simple question, the reaction is over the top.

We are talking chanting and his letter what the **** are you on about with Hillsborough, I never mentioned it I just asked if he believed the official line which has nothing to do with offering help when a tragedy occurs, human nature usually dictates you help out any way you can.

Grow up? Dude, the way you kind of flew off the handle, I think you need to step back a bit there.

It is still a valid question as to whether he believed any of the official line. Not a judgement of the man

 

Yeah i realised that when i posted - in fairness my response was more a general response to more aggresively asked questions than yours - in answer to your question I dont think he did believe the sun or the official line, he was very supportive of dalglish in the immediate aftermath I believe. What confused me most about this whole affair is despite only being 2 in 1989 and despite knowing very little about liverpool fc, i thought with the smallest amount of reading it was obviously not the fault of the fans... I dont really fully understand what 'new' has come out of this other than offical recognition from the top. I thought it was common knowledge that the actions of the police caued the accident. Maybe im being naiive.